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Post by pyramidhead333 on Nov 12, 2010 17:55:02 GMT -6
Who here agrees with my theory that Lovecraft believed in his work (particularly the Great Old Ones), but denied it in his letters? It's only a theory, so I don't know if I think it's true or not. He was a pagan in his childhood and saw satyrs and dryads, so I think it's possible.
I know, it's similar to the theory that Anton Lavey literally worshiped Satan, but told his followers that he was his own god. While I'm uncertain if I believe that was the case, apparently Manson Family member Susan Atkins says so. Now, I first saw that on a fundamentalist Christian website, so I do have doubts about it. According to this thread (http://cocthulhu.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=religion&action=display&thread=3455), there was an account that he said, "I fooled them all," and also someone on Youtube who was harassing a friend of mine and, in one case, me, said that Lavey did admit that, though the guy who said it was a Christian troll, so ...
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Post by boksmutant on Nov 12, 2010 18:47:36 GMT -6
People will argue that issue about Lovecraft, but It almost doesn't matter because anyone thats creative knows how much of your mind it takes to to come up with things like that. Especially something as grand as the Cthulhu mythos.
Ive thought up movie ideas from 15 years ago that still haunt my mind. Every day I think about the stories I invented. Probably three hours a day Im thinking about the stuff I come up with. If Im listening to music in my car (even rushing to work) Ill play a song thats high adrenaline & think of my characters in a gun battle or a chase scene. Its instinctual.
The things you dream up haunt you. Apocalyptic, science fiction futures filled with lasers & magic. lol I have five main stories/movies I thought of that absorb at least three hours my day. I love it! All creative people know how much your fantasies demand of you.
So it almost wouldn't matter if HPL said this or that. Even if he became rich from it (which he didn't) creative people know what it takes. Especially something as grand as the Cthulhu mythos. I can guarantee you he was haunted.
Awake!
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Post by Sarak G'hash on Nov 12, 2010 20:38:23 GMT -6
People will argue that issue about Lovecraft, but It almost doesn't matter because anyone thats creative knows how much of your mind it takes to to come up with things like that. Especially something as grand as the Cthulhu mythos. Ive thought up movie ideas from 15 years ago that still haunt my mind. Every day I think about the stories I invented. Probably three hours a day Im thinking about the stuff I come up with. If Im listening to music in my car (even rushing to work) Ill play a song thats high adrenaline & think of my characters in a gun battle or a chase scene. Its instinctual. The things you dream up haunt you. Apocalyptic, science fiction futures filled with lasers & magic. lol I have five main stories/movies I thought of that absorb at least three hours my day. I love it! All creative people know how much your fantasies demand of you. So it almost wouldn't matter if HPL said this or that. Even if he became rich from it (which he didn't) creative people know what it takes. Especially something as grand as the Cthulhu mythos. I can guarantee you he was haunted. Awake! I'm glad to see that I am not the only one that music has that effect on! With me, it was always movie soundtracks that made my imagination run amok. That's how I wrote my vampire short stories. Awake!
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Post by boksmutant on Nov 12, 2010 21:07:41 GMT -6
Awesome! In the stories you create, your characters feel emotion & are apart of you. They feel what you would feel in those situations. You are their God & even the bad guy in the story has his motivation worthy of attention. A good story teller can dive far into the backgrounds of his characters till they are almost living beings. Not just window dressing for the story. Although those characters are needed.
Almost anytime Im listening to music, Ill drift into my own worlds thinking about the backgrounds of my characters. You could say the characters demand your time. Like their dying to get out.
Awake!
But ya I love it.
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Post by Kai'Sigth on Nov 13, 2010 2:19:59 GMT -6
Who here agrees with my theory that Lovecraft believed in his work (particularly the Great Old Ones), but denied it in his letters? It's only a theory, so I don't know if I think it's true or not. He was a pagan in his childhood and saw satyrs and dryads, so I think it's possible. I know, it's similar to the theory that Anton Lavey literally worshiped Satan, but told his followers that he was his own god. While I'm uncertain if I believe that was the case, apparently Manson Family member Susan Atkins says so. Now, I first saw that on a fundamentalist Christian website, so I do have doubts about it. According to this thread (http://cocthulhu.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=religion&action=display&thread=3455), there was an account that he said, "I fooled them all," and also someone on Youtube who was harassing a friend of mine and, in one case, me, said that Lavey did admit that, though the guy who said it was a Christian troll, so ... Even though Lovecraft was regarded and still is as a staunch Atheist I do believe he, in fact, believed in the Great Old Ones; at least to a certain extent. I often view H.P. Lovecraft as some sort of Prophet who was guided by the Great Old Ones as he penned his stories in being. I like to refer to him as the "Dark Prince of Providence". Providence meaning both the place in which he lived; Providence, Rhode Island and the Webster definition of the word: Definition of PROVIDENCE
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a often capitalized : divine guidance or care
b capitalized : God conceived as the power sustaining and guiding human destinyHis tombstone proclaims "I AM PROVIDENCE" which holds double meaning with me! There are a ton of Occult under-currents in his stories as well that reinforce my belief that he was a Prophet of sorts. So yes, I believe he did in fact believed in his work. Ia! Ia! Cthulhu fhtagn! Kai'Sigth Dreaming Herald of the Old Gods Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by pyramidhead333 on Nov 13, 2010 8:25:24 GMT -6
I agree about him being a prophet. As you know, while I DO worship the Great Old Ones, I'm not a Cultist. But that doesn't matter. Tyson believes in Them, and he also regards Lovecraft as a prophet (see in the introduction of "Grimoire of the Necronomicon" one of the sections is called "A Dreaming Prophet).
Yeah, sorta like the character I named myself after. In case you haven't seen In the Mouth of Madness, I highly recommend seeing it now. Not only is it an amazing Lovecraftian movie, but pretty much covers what we're talking about. The guy based on Lovecraft, the one who I named myself after, isn't writing fiction. Or at least, it's not fiction ones billions of people believe in it, which begins to reveal that he's being told what to write by some evil beings called the Old Ones. He's sort of an uber-Lovecraft (LOL "uber" Lovecraft and his actor is German) Stephen King hybrid. In the end, Sutter Cane (the character) becomes the world's new god, and changes reality forever. Anyway, there's even a thread in this very section of the forum about Lovecraft's prophecies. But then, almost any author can be regarded as a prophet of sorts. Ray Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451 has become real in a number of ways. For example, the mechanical hound, there's those robot toys that are replacing real animals almost, which is depressing because I'm an animal-lover.
Hm, interesting about the word "PROVIDENCE." I knew that's the state he lived in, but I never expected that's what it meant. So he's basically saying, "I AM GOD" on his gravestone. Cool, gotta do more research.
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Post by I AM the Way on Nov 14, 2010 12:44:01 GMT -6
Who here agrees with my theory that Lovecraft believed in his work (particularly the Great Old Ones), but denied it in his letters? It's only a theory, so I don't know if I think it's true or not. He was a pagan in his childhood and saw satyrs and dryads, so I think it's possible. I know, it's similar to the theory that Anton Lavey literally worshiped Satan, but told his followers that he was his own god. While I'm uncertain if I believe that was the case, apparently Manson Family member Susan Atkins says so. Now, I first saw that on a fundamentalist Christian website, so I do have doubts about it. According to this thread (http://cocthulhu.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=religion&action=display&thread=3455), there was an account that he said, "I fooled them all," and also someone on Youtube who was harassing a friend of mine and, in one case, me, said that Lavey did admit that, though the guy who said it was a Christian troll, so ... Even though Lovecraft was regarded and still is as a staunch Atheist I do believe he, in fact, believed in the Great Old Ones; at least to a certain extent. I often view H.P. Lovecraft as some sort of Prophet who was guided by the Great Old Ones as he penned his stories in being. I like to refer to him as the "Dark Prince of Providence". Providence meaning both the place in which he lived; Providence, Rhode Island and the Webster definition of the word: Definition of PROVIDENCE
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a often capitalized : divine guidance or care
b capitalized : God conceived as the power sustaining and guiding human destinyHis tombstone proclaims "I AM PROVIDENCE" which holds double meaning with me! There are a ton of Occult under-currents in his stories as well that reinforce my belief that he was a Prophet of sorts. So yes, I believe he did in fact believed in his work. Ia! Ia! Cthulhu fhtagn! Kai'Sigth Dreaming Herald of the Old Gods Cult of Cthulhu This would make a great ascension essay if you have the desire to write it, Kai'Sigth.
God conceived as the power sustaining and guiding human destiny... that right there is a green pearl of wisdom.
By His loathsome tentacles,
Venger As'Nas Satanis High Priest Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by Kai'Sigth on Nov 14, 2010 18:37:04 GMT -6
Even though Lovecraft was regarded and still is as a staunch Atheist I do believe he, in fact, believed in the Great Old Ones; at least to a certain extent. I often view H.P. Lovecraft as some sort of Prophet who was guided by the Great Old Ones as he penned his stories in being. I like to refer to him as the "Dark Prince of Providence". Providence meaning both the place in which he lived; Providence, Rhode Island and the Webster definition of the word: Definition of PROVIDENCE
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a often capitalized : divine guidance or care
b capitalized : God conceived as the power sustaining and guiding human destinyHis tombstone proclaims "I AM PROVIDENCE" which holds double meaning with me! There are a ton of Occult under-currents in his stories as well that reinforce my belief that he was a Prophet of sorts. So yes, I believe he did in fact believed in his work. Ia! Ia! Cthulhu fhtagn! Kai'Sigth Dreaming Herald of the Old Gods Cult of Cthulhu This would make a great ascension essay if you have the desire to write it, Kai'Sigth.
God conceived as the power sustaining and guiding human destiny... that right there is a green pearl of wisdom.
By His loathsome tentacles,
Venger As'Nas Satanis High Priest Cult of Cthulhu
I have several on going ideas about the nature of the subject of my ascension essay, all which I am tossing around as ideas at the moment. I do not feel I have accomplished enough significance with the Work to take on the role of Wizard of Terrible Darkness. Once my personal life (I'm moving cross country this Friday) settles down a bit I plan on diving deep into the Fourth Way and seeing if I can make substantial progress with it. May the Old Ones guide me! I shall pray to them as I focus upon our Meta Sigil, Korthalis! Ia! Ia! Cthulhu fhtagn! Kai'Sigth Dreaming Herald of the Old Gods Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by boksmutant on Nov 15, 2010 18:18:11 GMT -6
Kai'Sigth. Where will you be moving too? I wish you luck on your travels.
Hail Cthulhu!
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