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Post by Shaz'rahjeem on Apr 25, 2008 16:10:19 GMT -6
At first when i recieved my name it felt empty. Howver over time it seemed to evovle and create a beast, or become a beast. Howver now it seems rather then creating it mearly identified and named an already existing animal. A name given to a mindset, a group of emotions or ideas. More simply an alterego.
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Post by luxcthonis on Apr 25, 2008 19:48:47 GMT -6
Interesting you should bring this up, because I have noticed a similar, sort of, phenomena regarding my own magical name. At first, when I joined the Cult and received my name, I remember having a slight pang of disappointment thinking that I should have been expecting something cooler. But right away I took charge of it, accepted it, and made it my own. I chose how it was to be pronounced; how it was to be perceived; had strange insights as to its meanings; contemplated for hours on how Venger receives the names of each Cultist; and most recently, developed an alternate form of spelling for it which emerged quite naturally, out of nowhere. I also have the feeling that I will be developing a sigil around it.
Since first joining, I have had the feeling that my magical self has been progressing at a rate sometimes quite unknown to my conscious self. The being known as H'smack'li, bestower of Cthonic knowledge, was just waiting to be called forth, before nameless, and now recognized.
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Post by professerackley777 on Apr 25, 2008 20:06:25 GMT -6
I wonder what my magical name will be, considering I am joining soon... Previously, (unrelated to COC of course) I chose my own magickal name which was, Non Servaim. Which of course is what Lucifer said to "God" before he fell. I thought that was very fitting, "I shall not serve" which of course is very similar to Belial which means "He who serves none" IA!
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Post by Shaz'rahjeem on Apr 27, 2008 16:49:49 GMT -6
I have also developed a sigil around it. I will post it up later.
I get the feeling that when i advance, and recieve a secong name, it(the charector, alter ego) will be an evolution of the previous.
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Post by Madguten on Apr 28, 2008 7:27:49 GMT -6
I celebrated my name in runes when i received it. Lut'vul'hashtan! I like it. Ia! Ia!
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Post by I AM the Way on Apr 28, 2008 10:09:31 GMT -6
hey Madguten, can you post that bottom right image again on the forum except a much larger version? i like that one particularly.
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Post by Madguten on Apr 28, 2008 10:21:17 GMT -6
Sure
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Post by Shaz'rahjeem on Apr 29, 2008 3:17:16 GMT -6
Kool. No matter how many times i see images of magical chamber, ritual alters, or deranged cultist i still find them all so interesting. Similar to the feeling when looking at some simple yet sugestive cult drawing... like the one on page 2 of 'liber null'
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Post by Madguten on Apr 29, 2008 5:12:18 GMT -6
Me too. Vodoun ceremony
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Post by blackheart69 on May 22, 2008 14:10:54 GMT -6
how do i get my magical name
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Post by Jordan on Sept 6, 2008 10:49:17 GMT -6
I was given my first degree(?) CoC cultist name the other day. VS named me Roj. The first three letter of my name, backwards. I really like it. It rolls of my tongue so nicely. ;D I contemplated it for about 45 minutes while allowing myself a cigarette. I don't smoke a lot, and I know its bad for your health, but hey, one or two a month won't kill me. I plan to celebrate my magickal name and the newest facet in my life (Cult of Cthulhu of course!) with a ritual. I'm thinking Saturday the 13th... The 13th day of the month has always been good to me. Oh, and I know I've been changing my name around a bit on here... I just wasn't sure what name I wanted to use. So I adopted my corn snake's name, Tanas.
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Post by Madguten on Sept 6, 2008 11:32:07 GMT -6
Congrats on your CoC name! Ia! Roj! Ia! Ia! Cthulhu fhtagn!May it serve you well. Edit: btw When i first got my CoC name, it kinda felt as if it was the name of a dark and slimy side of me that i was not very much in touch with, it still feels that way to some extend, except now i know this side better than i did before. I AM Lut'vul'hashtan and Lut'vul'hashtan is I. We have traveled quite a way together by now. It has been and still is; good.
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Post by Jordan on Sept 6, 2008 12:46:20 GMT -6
Lut'vul'hashtan sounds so awesome out loud! Kind of has a guttural German sound to it (how I'm saying it.) Is this your first, second or third CoC name?
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Post by Madguten on Sept 6, 2008 15:40:13 GMT -6
It is my first.
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Post by Jordan on Sept 6, 2008 16:45:48 GMT -6
Well, thats awesome. My name is so short compared to yours. I assumed the first degree names were shorter, but guess not...Size doesn't really matter... right?
LOL ;D
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Post by Madguten on Sept 9, 2008 1:52:56 GMT -6
No, except of course, having a long magical name increases the chance of the of misspelling or mistyping ones holy aka ;D I have sometimes written Lut'vul'hastan mistakingly leaving out an "h" before the "t". But for me it is more about the sound than it is about the spelling anyways.
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Post by jmsn on Sept 9, 2008 5:02:18 GMT -6
Are magickal names really necessary?Sounds like something out of a roleplaying fan club.Forgive my skepticism but doesn't it make more sense to work as whatever your name is in legal documents?I figure that way whatever power you acquire if such a thing can be done will be kept wherever you are in mundane reality (ie:cursing some asshole at work or some demented thugs on the street)
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Post by Madguten on Sept 9, 2008 5:25:50 GMT -6
I live in the old world and so if i did not use an alias i would probably have been burned at the steak a long time ago. That is really how things work here. I mean they would probably not bother to put together a fire but in any case it would be highly problematic. We are a small and strange country. Under six million people here nationwide.
Also, magical names can have other functions. When i call myself Madguten for instance, it is something i do to strengthen the bond between my flesh and that mysterious existence/world from my dreams that i love so much and have loved since i was born, maybe even before. The word comes from my interpretation of that world and while i realize the possibility that i alone may be the source of this "mystery" i am feeling, i still find it pure, reminding and inspiring. It is still a bond and it keeps something down while letting something else blossom. Iit is a bond i would not be without. Even if that "mystery feeling" is just my brain fooling me it does not matter since i am the product of the intelligence of the universe of multiverses. To me, it feels ULTRATERRESTRIAL. It feels beyond, but still within.
It is perhaps strengthened my speculation that maybe we are only the peaks of a greater body. Maybe we borrow our soul from a timeless source who retracts it again when our flesh dies. Like a puppetmaster of all soul.
Perhaps an unproductive thought.
Just speculating, i am not easily moved.
But then again, they say that faith moves mountains ;D
But from a rational viewpoint i can certainly agree with what you mean.
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Post by Yevathik on Sept 9, 2008 9:20:10 GMT -6
I did some serious contemplation about my own name the day I got it. Wrote it down with my other notes.
I think using a different name serves the same purpose as wearing robes instead of street clothes. It separates magic from everyday activity, and cements its importance in one's mind. It also seems like the first step in a transformation, so that when the time comes, your old name will be gone forever because you will no longer be that person.
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Post by Xor'Nefthrahm on Sept 9, 2008 10:02:12 GMT -6
Much how Anikan Skywalker became Darth Vader. Michael Ford has a Cane/Abel theory.. that Abel wasn't murdered, but his new Persona, Cane, symbolically murdered him, so his goal is much like ours.
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Post by Xor'Nefthrahm on Sept 9, 2008 10:03:38 GMT -6
At first when i recieved my name it felt empty. Howver over time it seemed to evovle and create a beast, or become a beast. Howver now it seems rather then creating it mearly identified and named an already existing animal. A name given to a mindset, a group of emotions or ideas. More simply an alterego. And for those who question why use a magickal name.. THAT is one reason why.
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Post by jmsn on Sept 9, 2008 19:45:14 GMT -6
I did some serious contemplation about my own name the day I got it. Wrote it down with my other notes. I think using a different name serves the same purpose as wearing robes instead of street clothes. It separates magic from everyday activity, and cements its importance in one's mind. It also seems like the first step in a transformation, so that when the time comes, your old name will be gone forever because you will no longer be that person. As long as you live in this physical world and ordered society...it is impossible to abandon your old name.You are recognized by that to survive so that you may have the ability to use your magickal name during your fee time and practice sorcery in your home/temple. I don't doubt the potency of a magickal name but I made too many for myself. What interest me more is the idea of one's true name.It's different from the magickal name in that it isn't only a dissociation from the mundane and an embrace of the supernatural. The Egyptians believe if you knew a persons "true name" you could control thier fate from start to finish...It is this I am most interested in finding out how to know. An unstable guy like me with no middle ground can swap out personalities by mere thought (person with no middle ground as my sister puts it) .For me a name is no longer necessary. I am I...The mundane name is how others identify I and the magick name was how identified myself when I had no idea how to dissociate.Being naturally sensitive to paranormal things has its perks. However..if I could dicover this concept of the "true" name..imagine!Being able to write your fate from start to finish...sometimes I think that's what crowley was able to do (on no real basis,just amusing myself)...Makes me wonder!
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Post by astennoth on Sept 9, 2008 22:57:07 GMT -6
I believe that a magickal name strengthens and transforms the will. My full magickal name is Heathens Y'abhatep. I also use the name Astennoth when I practise magick. It almost gives me another personality to work with.
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Post by Madguten on Sept 10, 2008 4:05:29 GMT -6
It is certainly an interesting idea, i like the theory.
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Post by jmsn on Sept 10, 2008 5:32:44 GMT -6
Is it really a good idea for you to say your magickal name in public though?I only ask because technically this site is accessible to the public.I was always told that much like a personal deification ,it should never be used by anyone other than the self.What are your thoughts on this?
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Post by Jordan on Sept 10, 2008 7:27:43 GMT -6
Is it really a good idea for you to say your magickal name in public though?I only ask because technically this site is accessible to the public.I was always told that much like a personal deification ,it should never be used by anyone other than the self.What are your thoughts on this? Hmm... I thought about this when I received my name. It makes sense.
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Post by I AM the Way on Sept 10, 2008 9:19:43 GMT -6
i could understand a person being cautious about a secret name of power or deification; however, Cult names are not like that (unless an individual chooses to use his in such a way). the majority of Cultists can use their given magical name as a handle or even a persona when dealing with other Cultists.
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Post by Madguten on Sept 11, 2008 5:37:55 GMT -6
I think that such things exist, but for me it is not names, but thoughts or thoughtpatterns i keep secret. My mind is hidden.
btw, remember that old saying that; if you utter your wish or tell it to someone, then it will not come true.
ha ha ha where do we (the race) get these things from, really, wheres it from, our mind, or outside of it? It sticks to us like glue in any case.
One of my friends bought a "magic eightball" for fun, after minutes i had already made up rules in my mind as to how the ball was to be used in order for it to work to the fullest extend. ;D Ridiculous from most rational aspects.
Its terrible and wonderful (the mind AND the Universe)
ha ha ha
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Post by jmsn on Sept 12, 2008 5:52:56 GMT -6
I've been thinking about giving myself a numerical name, a string of numbers of deep relevance.The name itself will symbolize a different state of mind.The numbers I can't reveal my reasoning behind as those numbers are deeply personal.Nonetheless i see th relevance now!
The given name or birth name is not a personal name.Our parent give it to us for whatever reason but they symbolize our parent's ideals not our own!
To give one's self a name is personalization with oneself as a whole!
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Post by I AM the Way on Sept 12, 2008 12:45:09 GMT -6
i like that numerical name. could have a lot of magical resonance for the individual. i've always felt connected to the # 111.
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