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Post by Shaz'rahjeem on Mar 9, 2008 2:17:03 GMT -6
Druidic Cthulhuism Also can be called Celtic Cthulhuism.
Is my new idea and combination, fusion of celtic magik is one of the oldest forms of magik. With the rise of christianity, all the older form of spellcraft became 'evil.' So therefore i would still say it falls under black magik in that sense. Basically i have taken the specifics of druidism spellcraft and melded it with the mythos. The way i look at druidism is it has been develpoed nder no influence by other beliefs. Unlike some toher forms are forged to control or restrict. they made it not by deciding what is what and thats-that. It came naturaly.
The spiritual practices are based in the earth, so they can't emmediatly be dissmissed as wrong. The earthitself is not a prison, reality is. Reality created by the lesser gods. If the earth were under the lesser gods complete authority then why would the great city of R'lyeh be on it. Sure its sunken, but the lesser gods can't remove it. Only hide it.
If dread Cthulhu chose this spec for his palace then it must be special.
Btw, i am only new too druidism, only an ovate. so if anyone has knowledge on it historicly, or knows anygood books. then a tip off would be much appreciated.
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Post by Gish on Mar 17, 2008 4:40:57 GMT -6
If you want some texts on druidism check www.sacred-texts.com under the celtic section, and I think that there is a bit about druidism in Grimoires. I've found texts dating back to the 1700's.
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Post by Shaz'rahjeem on Mar 17, 2008 17:28:17 GMT -6
Whilst im sure no body realy cares, i am backtracking in my forway into druidism. I have read into a few books, history of it and its interesting, but like alot things i do i get fully into something before i have a wealth of knowledge on the subject, then when i do i sit back and rethink my standing. So far the best book i have gotten on the subject is 'the druidry handbook' by jm greer. I follow the moon, and earth paths, however i have greatly altered the sun path, and am moving back into my favourite past time chaos magick. It fits better with the mythos and to me persony. (These paths in direct reference to the book, basically three teachings of the druid) I found the sun paths rituals to be rigid, they would have appealed to me a while ago. when i first came to this organisation, but knowledge has shaped me otherwise now. The rituals are open to adaptation, but i have nearly left that the sun path teaches in magick. Using only a few of the bare essentials. If anyone would like some info on it i ca help you out. poit you in the right way, but it will druidism will not fit with the cthulhu paradigm as it may originally seem, as it did to me.
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Post by Timotheus Prophet of Darkness on Mar 18, 2008 17:29:27 GMT -6
Druidic Cthulhuism Also can be called Celtic Cthulhuism. Is my new idea and combination, fusion of celtic magik is one of the oldest forms of magik. With the rise of christianity, all the older form of spellcraft became 'evil.' So therefore i would still say it falls under black magik in that sense. Basically i have taken the specifics of druidism spellcraft and melded it with the mythos. The way i look at druidism is it has been develpoed nder no influence by other beliefs. Unlike some toher forms are forged to control or restrict. they made it not by deciding what is what and thats-that. It came naturaly. The spiritual practices are based in the earth, so they can't emmediatly be dissmissed as wrong. The earthitself is not a prison, reality is. Reality created by the lesser gods. If the earth were under the lesser gods complete authority then why would the great city of R'lyeh be on it. Sure its sunken, but the lesser gods can't remove it. Only hide it. If dread Cthulhu chose this spec for his palace then it must be special. Btw, i am only new too druidism, only an ovate. so if anyone has knowledge on it historicly, or knows anygood books. then a tip off would be much appreciated. This is indeed interesting.I have thought of trying this myself before but never got around to it.I wish you all thje best of luck PS:The Cat in the Hat is really Cthulhu:P
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Post by curwen on Apr 7, 2008 18:27:43 GMT -6
Have you seen this? Its a celtic version of the cthulhu mythos.
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Post by Shaz'rahjeem on Apr 9, 2008 19:07:59 GMT -6
That looks interesting. I wouldn't mind reading that. Thanks curwen
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Post by sin on Aug 22, 2008 14:15:30 GMT -6
Whilst im sure no body realy cares, i am backtracking in my forway into druidism. I have read into a few books, history of it and its interesting, but like alot things i do i get fully into something before i have a wealth of knowledge on the subject, then when i do i sit back and rethink my standing. So far the best book i have gotten on the subject is 'the druidry handbook' by jm greer. I follow the moon, and earth paths, however i have greatly altered the sun path, and am moving back into my favourite past time chaos magick. It fits better with the mythos and to me persony. (These paths in direct reference to the book, basically three teachings of the druid) I found the sun paths rituals to be rigid, they would have appealed to me a while ago. when i first came to this organisation, but knowledge has shaped me otherwise now. The rituals are open to adaptation, but i have nearly left that the sun path teaches in magick. Using only a few of the bare essentials. If anyone would like some info on it i ca help you out. poit you in the right way, but it will druidism will not fit with the cthulhu paradigm as it may originally seem, as it did to me. What books specifically? Most books are based on heresay, and speculation. I would also like to point out that folk magic is the oldest form, dive in to some archaeological references about neolithic peoples. The point is, Druidry as you would know it today is a re-construction based on speculated beliefs and practices. I've studied this in-depth, trust me when I say you'd be better served to make it up as you go starting from what you know now, and be true to it. A friend of mine is 13 years into her studies to be a Druid, seeing that they don't know in all certainty what Druids did in antiquity, I find this amusing. Forum discussion, defining a "Druid" www.paganspace.net/forum/topic/show?id=1342861%3ATopic%3A527870
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Post by Shaz'rahjeem on Aug 31, 2008 22:03:58 GMT -6
It would seem your refering to re-construction druidists. Who try and recreate the old religion, and practices of druidry exactly. Which like you say is a short minded idea, because very little is known about the druids. I looked into modern druidry, which like any neo-pagan religion takes, and adapts an older religion or idea.
The best book i have on druidry is 'The Druidry Handbook' by John Greer.
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Post by sin on Sept 2, 2008 9:39:34 GMT -6
It would seem your refering to re-construction druidists. Who try and recreate the old religion, and practices of druidry exactly. Which like you say is a short minded idea, because very little is known about the druids. I looked into modern druidry, which like any neo-pagan religion takes, and adapts an older religion or idea. The best book i have on druidry is 'The Druidry Handbook' by John Greer. Ah, I see. Well, that's a more realistic approach. I'll add the book to my reading list. Thank you.
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Post by sin on Jul 16, 2009 7:30:17 GMT -6
Any updates on this? I'd be curious to know how this is panning out.
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Post by LostSoul on Jul 16, 2009 15:13:10 GMT -6
^ I agree...This sounds most intriguing! ;D
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Post by Kyuubi on Apr 13, 2010 10:35:48 GMT -6
Keep on posting about this I am very interested in your working and findings.
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Post by nixx on Apr 13, 2010 12:22:08 GMT -6
You might have to look farther back to connect the druidic practices to the Mythos. Donald Tyson brings an interesting bit relating to it in his Necronomicon with the rites to Yog-Sothoth at Stonehenge. He elaborates a bit more in "Alhazred" but not much. From a purely pagan point of view, it would be easy to bring Yog-Sothoth, Shub-Niggurath, & Nyarlthotep into these works as they are already there. Yog-Sothoth being the gatekeeper, Shub-Niggurath being representative of the menstruating goddess, & Nyarlathotep being the walker between worlds who could even be related to Taliesin, though that is a bit of a stretch, but still possible.
As Master Satanis stated in "Cthulhu Cult", all gods are different heads of the same hydra, which is the formless black essence. If following Druidic practices gets you there, by all means go, & dress it up in ways that work for you. Yog-Sothoth is a good place to start as the druids followed the solstices & equinoxes, as well as the movements of the stars which ties right into the Mythos. Seek its guidance in your meditations, as well as that of Great Cthulhu!
Awake!
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Post by nixx on Apr 13, 2010 12:25:01 GMT -6
When I say farther back, I mean look to where the druidic rites came from which one can be reasonably sure is somewhere in the Orient. Look to India, Sumeria, & even Japan; Sumeria being the oldest, & you will find many similarities with slightly different window dressing.
When the Stars Are Right!
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Post by A'Zodul F'eid on Apr 13, 2010 18:29:47 GMT -6
My advice look into The Battle of Mag Tuired, and other such early Celtic Myths and the Old Old Deities associated with such times. Compare those stories with the conflicts of Titans and Olympians, some early Egyptian Myths, Oriental tales of Dragons fighting, and maybe throw in the Simon Necronmicon. It paints a rather nice picture all together.
Awake!
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Post by Narlool L'Pah on Apr 16, 2010 3:42:34 GMT -6
I'm involved with Modern Druidism.
Just like any pagan eclecticism you can adapt ritual/liturgy and spells to what suits you.
I have Celtic Blood and the Neo-Druid movement speaks to me more than Wicca.
If you look at the Creation Mythos explained by VS in the Bibles then 'Nature' is just an extension of that universe. We can see the suffering and cruelty in nature, and the power of the elements.
/endofmybabbling.
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