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Post by I AM the Way on Mar 15, 2010 12:50:08 GMT -6
A great post from the First Priest of R'lyeh Beast Xeno.
To me, it sounds like we could easily call the fourth dimension a conscious dimension. A vantage point from which to see the previous three... physical, emotional, and intellectual. In order to experience this dimension of consciousness, self-awareness must be employed. And not only self-awareness but separating oneself from all things.
Just out of curiosity, has anyone else read Ouspensky's book, A New Model of the Universe? I highly recommend it.
Remember thyself, for the Emerald Kingdom is at hand!
Venger As'Nas Satanis Cult of Cthulhu High Priest
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Post by beastx on Mar 15, 2010 15:05:00 GMT -6
A great post from the First Priest of R'lyeh Beast Xeno.
To me, it sounds like we could easily call the fourth dimension a conscious dimension. A vantage point from which to see the previous three... physical, emotional, and intellectual. In order to experience this dimension of consciousness, self-awareness must be employed. And not only self-awareness but separating oneself from all things.
Just out of curiosity, has anyone else read Ouspensky's book, A New Model of the Universe? I highly recommend it.
Remember thyself, for the Emerald Kingdom is at hand!
Venger As'Nas Satanis Cult of Cthulhu High Priest
Master Satanis,
I believe we are speaking of the same element when you say Conscious and I say Animated. Our consciousness is the very energy that animates us.
To be even more elaborate about my assessment of the 4th dimension, I believe it to be an emanate current of energy fluctuating and reseeding the collective.
I also believe we view our consciousness in the entirely wrong light. We instinctively know so many things from our conception and on. It to me is obvious that we all share a part of something which is truly alien to our understanding...
Beast Xeno First Priest of R'lyeh Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by I AM the Way on Mar 15, 2010 16:56:32 GMT -6
Animated, yes... but animated like a puppet on universal strings!
As you mentioned earlier in the thread, or in another similar thread, language can be ambiguous. I know what you're trying to say, First Priest of R'lyeh Beast Xeno, based on previous discussions we've had and that it's inline with my own understanding; however, I'd like to clarify my thoughts for the benefit of others.
There are forces or energies which animate us. They animate everyone just about all the time. However, that is the universe acting through us. Our desires are not really ours, we receive them. This unfortunate chain of command is part of our programing as human beings. That slice of pizza you're reaching for? That's not really you reaching for the pizza. It's those unseen forces animating you in order to satisfy its desire.
To act consciously, to do something of your own accord, is extremely difficult. States of higher consciousness do not come easily, yet without them we are only puppets. Is it a scary thing to dance as a wooden marionette all our lives? You bet it is! That's why Gurdjieff called it "the terror of the situation."
Existing in the conscious dimension or self-remembering is something which, if we work for it, might be available to us three times a day and for as long as several minutes per interval. This is an estimation based on a beginning student involved in The Work. A member of the Cult's priesthood, for example, can exceed this by a generous margin. Such a shock to our system can transform us, creating substantial changes.
The Work is the essence of our religion. Go forth, Cultists, and live deliberately.
Awake!
Venger As'Nas Satanis Cult of Cthulhu High Priest
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Post by I AM the Way on Mar 17, 2010 17:50:42 GMT -6
This.
Just to clarify/specify, I'd say that free associative artwork is completely intuitive. There are some forms of art which are literal, pragmatic, and calculated.
However, your whole post... really this entire thread is astounding. First Priest of R'lyeh is truly seeing with his oozing, viridian third eye. It is my hope that others will use him as a model Cultist, just as it is my wish that he take on students of his own in order to further our insidious cause.
When the stars are right!
Venger As'Nas Satanis Cult of Cthulhu High Priest
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Post by Sarak G'hash on Mar 17, 2010 18:42:39 GMT -6
Every phenomenon comes from a 'Current' (field/dimension) of energy. All our thoughts, our feelings, and every movement of the body is the manifestation of a specific energy. In our sleep-walking state, that current is constantly swelling and flooding. The endless focus and blur that happens as we shift from thought to feeling to sensation creates a fluctuating series of impulses. We deceive ourselves believing this is me or "I". As one desire is crystallized and then either fulfilled or dismissed, it is quickly replaced with another. We become slave to a pattern of contradiction in which there can be no continuity of intention. This continuity of intention is recognized by us as True Will. This deception of self, believes that the fluctuating series of impulses is itself. It creates a wall of illusion professing it is acting of will power and independence. This wall of illusion is understood as a "Mask". The mask in itself is an amazing tool of transformation. However it bears the potential for greater evils of the psyche. When used consciously it can unlock the doors of transformation and allow us to create our "Higher Selves". When we make the mistake of allowing it to trick us into believing that it is our "Higher Self", we pave the way of self destructive tendency.
This is what Gurdjieff was calling "The Terror Of The Situation".
Since its birth, Science has attempted to accurately detail the processes and mechanisms of the universe. From the macrocosm to the microcosm it has failed disastrously to take into account in its equations the dimension of conscious experience. It cannot capture the meaning of perception, nor depict the nature thought. The abstract and mental system of mathematical symbols is void of human experience, spirituality, and creativity.
Two parallel perceptions of reality, which as they are can never meet, are the scientific language of definition (Ordinary Knowledge) and the symbolic language of perception (Ancient Knowledge). We are compelled to take sides, the logical versus the intuitive, matter versus spirit, visible versus invisible, subjective versus objective, and finite versus infinite. The logical see the idea that there is a "something" that no one can touch, no one can see, and no instrument can detect is obviously ridiculous. Dismissing it as fiction. His impatience and intolerance groups both metaphysics and spirituality as ludicrous superstition. He is convinced everything is hinged together in a logical sequence of events which accidentally produced man. The universe is nothing more than a senseless systematic chain reaction that is blind and without purpose to the logical.
Consciousness is an integral part of the Current which is the fourth dimension. Formed by frequency of vibrations which flux and flow through all things animating everything. Master Satanis is correct this animation more often than not is working through us and not because of us. Let us examine this through a specific lens. From a particle level to the perceptual level, man is built up from small groups working together. Like pixels to the picture, the evidence of man's own emanationism is undeniable. In this perception every phenomenon is situated in its relationship to others. We are undoubtedly, accepted or not, all a piece of a larger reality. As slaves to this reality, we succumb to its continuity of intention. Intuitively we sense this but mistrust the value of intuition.
The Cult of Cthulhu does not. The Cult of Cthulhu recognizes this mechanical enslavement. Our creed has mandated us to reject this self deceit and mutate. Transform into the oozing free-formed entity of Cthulhu.
"That is not dead which can eternal lie. And with strange aeons even death may die." - Lovecraft
Nothing illustrates this curious phenomenon better that the above quote. For along time I was misguided in it's nature. I felt this was merely fiction. No existing records of this mythical priest of cosmic horror, could be provided without seriously stretching and skewing the facts. I've always regarded Lovecraft's work as Masterful. Artwork which transforms our very perceptions and opens in us a sense of wonder and awe.
Artwork is completely intuitive. There are frequencies of vibrations in the colors, shapes, geometry, and above all it's complete field which evoke corresponding frequencies in us. We can perceive our own feelings being intensified as their energy, is transformed by the impression of the artwork. The results are not of accident but of a unique process. To understand this, we must examine the source of our creative impulses. We tend to try to explain all artistic and spiritual experiences as psychological and cultural conditioning. However the value of experience quickly makes short work of those notions. Artwork taps into the realm of imagination. Imagination believes all things are possible. Possibility is only governed by probability. Lovecraft knew this, hence the expression "When the stars are right".
Something improbable is still entirely possible, just not likely. That is not dead (improbable but still possible) which can eternal lie.
Lovecraft knew....
When the stars are right,
Beast Xeno First Priest of R'lyeh Cult of Cthulhu This is from the Necronomicon Project-Book 2 and I think it lines up perfectly with what you are saying... Peaceful is the ignorant man whose vision of Earth is bounded by hills and the seas behind. Such a man lives on a small island of ignorance, unaware of the oceans of maddening absurdities surrounding this small world.
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Post by beastx on Mar 18, 2010 8:35:58 GMT -6
This.Just to clarify/specify, I'd say that free associative artwork is completely intuitive. There are some forms of art which are literal, pragmatic, and calculated.
However, your whole post... really this entire thread is astounding. First Priest of R'lyeh is truly seeing with his oozing, viridian third eye. It is my hope that others will use him as a model Cultist, just as it is my wish that he take on students of his own in order to further our insidious cause.
When the stars are right!
Venger As'Nas Satanis Cult of Cthulhu High Priest
High Priest Satanis,
I'm honored and I would happily accept students. Anyone interested should contact me privately.
Beast Xeno First Priest of R'lyeh Cult of Cthulhu
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