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Post by K'zin Z'tari on Nov 25, 2009 18:27:08 GMT -6
I am pretty new to Satanism,I read the satanic code, to be precice,in the article"Satanism in profane hands"and I realised that I have been living like that for a long time.
As I see it there is this power source that some people like to call"GOD"which the whole universe revolves around,everything is made out of that energy that flowes from that powersource,that god thing is the center of the universe,like a huge(and I mean HUGE)singularity that acts like the blackhole in the center of our galaxy,holding everything together.
Outside our universe come other dimensions"the spirit world"or thats how I see it,recently my understanding of those things have become deeper and more wast,and I have been thinking about where does this "god"creature come from,is he a renegade from the old ones,some entity that gained power somehow and became so powerful that he rebelled and created the universe so that he could rule by himself for as long as he can get away with it cos nothing seems to last for ever and perhaps the end of his reign will be the end of reality that have been prophesised.
It is said that this god creature created Satan as he created the universe,but I have been wondering,isnt Satan older than our universe,like some force similar to the god creature maybe of similar origin and power and is he working on a plot to overthrow God and take over or create his own universe where he will be the "God"
Well I wonder
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Post by I AM the Way on Nov 25, 2009 19:30:18 GMT -6
i'm glad that you're thinking about these things. most people don't even bother.
i have created my own cosmology which feels right for me, but that's not as important as viewing the larger picture logically and from a slightly more objective viewpoint than we're used to.
these are the easiest questions to ask oneself, in my opinion...
1. does the world generally suck?
2. why is that the case?
3. how can i escape the suckitude of this world?
everything else is really just semantics. hope to read more of your thoughts and those of other forum users.
Venger As'Nas Satanis Cult of Cthulhu High Priest
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Post by thepuck on Nov 25, 2009 20:38:56 GMT -6
i'm glad that you're thinking about these things. most people don't even bother.
i have created my own cosmology which feels right for me, but that's not as important as viewing the larger picture logically and from a slightly more objective viewpoint than we're used to.
these are the easiest questions to ask oneself, in my opinion...
1. does the world generally suck?
2. why is that the case?
3. how can i escape the suckitude of this world?
everything else is really just semantics. hope to read more of your thoughts and those of other forum users.
Venger As'Nas Satanis Cult of Cthulhu High Priest
Ha! So eloquent!
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Post by creature on Nov 26, 2009 3:11:43 GMT -6
I am pretty new to Satanism,I read the satanic code, to be precice,in the article"Satanism in profane hands"and I realised that I have been living like that for a long time. As I see it there is this power source that some people like to call"GOD"which the whole universe revolves around,everything is made out of that energy that flowes from that powersource,that god thing is the center of the universe,like a huge(and I mean HUGE)singularity that acts like the blackhole in the center of our galaxy,holding everything together. Outside our universe come other dimensions"the spirit world"or thats how I see it,recently my understanding of those things have become deeper and more wast,and I have been thinking about where does this "god"creature come from,is he a renegade from the old ones,some entity that gained power somehow and became so powerful that he rebelled and created the universe so that he could rule by himself for as long as he can get away with it cos nothing seems to last for ever and perhaps the end of his reign will be the end of reality that have been prophesised. It is said that this god creature created Satan as he created the universe,but I have been wondering,isnt Satan older than our universe,like some force similar to the god creature maybe of similar origin and power and is he working on a plot to overthrow God and take over or create his own universe where he will be the "God" Well I wonder I believe that one entity that was all split into two halves. Satan is one.
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Post by Draelloathe on Nov 26, 2009 16:25:09 GMT -6
According to the ancient egyptians, Ammun the cheif god of the Middle Kingdom, was said to have split himself from his negativity. Enlightenly enough, nothing is said what happened to this dark half.
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Post by K'zin Z'tari on Nov 26, 2009 17:47:05 GMT -6
If that is the fact to say that the entity split into half like Mr.creature here above mentionied then who is to say which one is good and which one is evil.
If the god creature I talked about above is the force that created the universe then he is like demanding that the inhabitants of the universe worship HIM and nothing else because more worshippers means more power for him and he is always wanting to be more and more powerful.
Then if we think about what is said by,well lets say "the normal people"the ones who worship him,that he is almighty and allwise,why does he need to gain more power? I think that is because he has to be more powerful than the Satan part so he can completely be the allmighty god people belive him to be,his goal is to destroy or overtake the other half or something like that.
Now if we look at the bible story of the garden of eden,we realise that Adam and Eve lived there in some kind of blizz drunk from the godly power,in total ignorance of the real reality and it wasnt until Satan posing as the snake tricked them into eating the forbidden fruit,that everything became clear to them.The thruth about hmmm well things and then they,like says in the bible,they became aware of the fact that they were naked and felt ashamed because of it.
What I think concerning that matter is that Satan is the one who brings the truth and God is the one who wants us to be in that blizz not knowing the thruth, and therefore it must be Satan that is the good one and God is the evil one,why do I say that because the thruth is what makes you free,right well at least that is a matter worth thinking about.
Ia Ia Cthulhu fhtagn
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Post by Draelloathe on Nov 26, 2009 18:33:28 GMT -6
I think it may be more like he gave them a conscious, and then Satan was unable to tell them what to do with it. I.E. give them a loaded weapon, example being those who think animals should have the same rights as humans. Or whatever.
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Post by Xor'Nefthrahm on Nov 27, 2009 9:53:24 GMT -6
To me this "God" creature keeps us enslaved as a spiritual food source. Satan wants us to be free. I agree with Adam and Eve being in blisfull ignorace in begining, knowing only "good", but after eating the fruit of wisdom, learned of "good" and "evil". Their ignorace was gone, and perhaps true free will was obtained at that point. Before then, we were probably as the angels, we obey without question (OH most people are still like this, sorry.. almost forgot) but now we are more like the demons. I believe people are hesitant to work with demons because you cant predict their behavior like you can an angel.. you might catch them on a bad day..
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Post by Sarak G'hash on Nov 27, 2009 13:42:37 GMT -6
To me this "God" creature keeps us enslaved as a spiritual food source. Satan wants us to be free. I agree with Adam and Eve being in blisfull ignorace in begining, knowing only "good", but after eating the fruit of wisdom, learned of "good" and "evil". Their ignorace was gone, and perhaps true free will was obtained at that point. Before then, we were probably as the angels, we obey without question (OH most people are still like this, sorry.. almost forgot) but now we are more like the demons. I believe people are hesitant to work with demons because you cant predict their behavior like you can an angel.. you might catch them on a bad day.. that makes sooo much damn sense!!
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