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Post by Areion Osprek'ar on Aug 23, 2009 14:01:34 GMT -6
I just thought that I would share with everyone through this particular thread that most recently through the use of mental manipulation and psychological subtleties, I was able to turn My wife of the last 2 years into My submissive slave, which was quite a feat considering she's not very submissive to anyone else in any way. To hear someone call you Master, when they would rip most peoples faces off gives one quite the feeling of accomplishment......not to mention one Hell of an ego boost! ;D
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Post by I AM the Way on Aug 23, 2009 15:29:01 GMT -6
ok... how specifically?
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Post by sin on Aug 24, 2009 8:09:59 GMT -6
Yeah, I'd like to hear the details.
As a skilled Satanic Witch myself, I can say I can 'play' submissive as it suits my needs but I actually control the master - not the other way around. So, I'd be interested to hear the details about how you turned an otherwise aggressive personality into a submissive one.
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Post by Areion Osprek'ar on Aug 24, 2009 8:36:37 GMT -6
well, to answer both of you, it involved getting in touch with another woman I know who is also submissive. I wont give ALL details about how this came to be (after all, a magician never reveals his secrets. HAHA!)
this "other woman" I've known much longer than I've known My wife. her and I are very close friends....so close in fact that the only thing stopping us from being a couple is physical contact. (she lives in a different state)
through a series of communications with her, I started to withdraw from My wife which in turn made her insecure. after some reassurance from Me and getting to know the other woman and the magnitude of our relationship, My wife's eyes were opened to the lifestyle that I have wanted to live for quite some time.
that's it in a nutshell.
oh by the way, the reason My wife is so aggressive towards others is because she has a tendency to go into what she calls "bipolar bitch mode" on those who piss her off. I've just been smart enough not to piss her off. HAHA!
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Post by sin on Aug 24, 2009 12:42:47 GMT -6
So her submissiveness is purely voluntary. A momentary issue of insecurity doesn't change their paradigm, perhaps she just liked the idea after fully understanding it.
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Post by I AM the Way on Aug 24, 2009 12:58:34 GMT -6
this makes it sound more like a kinky roleplaying thing (and possibly temporary) rather than true submission. what happens if the Master pisses off his slave? does she revolt? does she try kicking her Master's ass?
besides a natural tendency or fetish for submission, i believe a dominant person in a relationship needs to care less, or pretend to care less, about his (or her) partner than his partner cares for him. however, i don't know because i've never been in that type of Master/slave situation.
is there a book that anyone would recommend?
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Post by sin on Aug 24, 2009 13:49:21 GMT -6
I can hook you up with a Dom in the lifestyle. She's on myspace. I'm suppose to do a fetish photo shoot with her, I'll touch base with her and see if she doesn't mind answering some questions about the dynamic.
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Post by Areion Osprek'ar on Aug 24, 2009 14:21:01 GMT -6
and now you can hear her own words about the situation. this was taken from her latest myspace blog.
This Girl has reached a turning point in her life. Recently, This Girl discovered the insatiable desire for pain. My Husband, and now My Master, was more than willing to indulge. Never before in her life, had This Girl ever even thought pain could be so thrilling. But My Master has opened my eyes to how beautiful it can be. He is a very patient Master, He is happy to indulge This Girl's masochism, and I love Him for it. Together, We have been working on breaking (more like obliterating actually) the walls inside This Girl's head, and He has been a very kind, loving and understanding Master. No details are needed, just know there has never been any man who can connect with This Girl's mind the way He does, it's almost like He can read This Girl's mind, and know what she is thinking and desiring Him to do before she asks Him to do it. And that is what makes this whole thing all that much more wonderful, This Girl's Master is a very sadistic Master, and He is willing to keep a reign on His tendencies, until This Girl asks Him to let them out, and let His dominance take complete control of her. He is my Husband, my Master, my best friend, my lover, my teacher, my whole world and He is forever in my heart for all the things He has opened This Girl's eyes to; all the wonderful indulgences He has shown This Girl how to take; and for being the loving, understanding and patient Master that He is.
This Girl loves her Master completely, and enjoys giving herself to Him completely every time He gets the urge to take me to the heights of ecstasy only He can carry This Girl to.
now granted, I don't have her crawling behind Me on a collar and leash everywhere we go, but its a damn good start......I think.
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Post by Areion Osprek'ar on Aug 24, 2009 17:42:03 GMT -6
I don't know about a book, but there was a movie released a few years ago called "The Pet" that should give anyone curious on the subject the deepest look into the lifestyle they could ask for. www.myspace.com/thepetmovie also, yes her submissiveness is voluntary. most every master/slave relationship be it strictly bdsm or gore or both is voluntary. it would have to be to live within the limits of the law in our society. and yes it does make for very kinky roleplay in the bedroom. as you can see from My wife's blog, a major factor in this whole thing is that she's a masochist in the truest sense of the word. I just happen to be a sadist, so our marriage has become what it should have always been.....a mutually beneficial relationship.
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Post by Ny'obstaresh on Aug 24, 2009 21:20:38 GMT -6
As a Dom of several years, and a natural sadist, I'd agree with that statement. The master/mistress owns the slave. The slave is his/her property, his/her possession. For example my current slave, the girl in the scarification photographs, always sits on the floor, speaks only when spoken to by myself, and always does what she's told and follows all instructions precisely. In return for loyal servitude, I give her what she wants - pain and degradation, and plenty of it! It's a game, basically like what Cora said: A kind of "you rub my back, I'll cane yours" type situation Great fun, though, understandably, it's not for everyone.
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Post by I AM the Way on Aug 25, 2009 11:42:05 GMT -6
coincidentally, a friend of mine told me about this site just last night: www.fetlife.com
looks like a great resource for finding people into that kind of scene. i decided to join myself... and it's free.
VS
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Post by sin on Aug 25, 2009 14:28:37 GMT -6
Seems to me, I was right on the money. She understands it, therefore it's voluntary. You did not change her core, nor her will. You give her what she wants, what she feel she needs - and you my friend, are in service to the slave.
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Post by Areion Osprek'ar on Aug 26, 2009 5:25:41 GMT -6
Lol its kind of funny, but I can see your point. However, unless one is kidnapped (genuinely and not as a role play) or in any other way forced into a submissive/slave role then yes, the submission is always voluntary. And yes, I view our relationship as mutually beneficial so in a way I am in service to her as the sadist who gladly indulges her masochism. But in turn, she is the submissive slave who gladly indulges My every whim. Its a push/pull, yin/yang situation that has brought us complete balance.
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Post by sin on Aug 26, 2009 6:48:05 GMT -6
Lol its kind of funny, but I can see your point. However, unless one is kidnapped (genuinely and not as a role play) or in any other way forced into a submissive/slave role then yes, the submission is always voluntary. And yes, I view our relationship as mutually beneficial so in a way I am in service to her as the sadist who gladly indulges her masochism. But in turn, she is the submissive slave who gladly indulges My every whim. Its a push/pull, yin/yang situation that has brought us complete balance. Shatki & Shiva - electric and magnetic [raises horns]
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Post by curwen on Sept 14, 2009 14:57:50 GMT -6
Hm, I dont really get this "i want my partner to be my slave"-thing, to me it seems a lot closer to a reactionary conservative christian (or jewish or muslim) paradigm than to something satanic or left-hand path (tantric).
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Post by sin on Sept 15, 2009 7:12:05 GMT -6
I'm guessing it feeds the ego Curwen, and gives the illusion of 'power' over another. The Sadist isn't always widely aware, that they become the slave.
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Post by tiswas on Sept 17, 2009 12:40:56 GMT -6
Unfortunately my husband is not my master, but I wish he was more. I am younger and I am a Libra and he a Aries. I too am a Satanic witch and I am aware of the Shiva/Shakti story. Very erotic. IA Also changing my appearence would help. I need to look daintier so I can stir it.
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Post by Apsara Kamalli on Jun 13, 2010 10:37:39 GMT -6
My boyfriend and I have role played the sub/dom sexual experience in the past with him being the dom and me in the submissive role. He even bought me my own collar, which I wear with pride whenever it's put on me. And every once in awhile, I'll wear it out of the bedroom, just to get his attention. But our true sub/dom experience is more prevalent in our everyday life.
He is definitely the more dominant personality in our relationship in all areas. I commend him on that, and I admire his strength in his convictions, his intelligence, and his intentions. His personality keeps me laughing, even when I don't want to admit it.
I... well... I'm the “nice” one. I like to give people the benefit of the doubt, a second (sometimes third and fourth) chance, and hand out extra food to the local transients at the street corner. I remind him of the subtlety of humanity, and the way to use passiveness in manipulation of others behaviors.
This yin/yang of personalities in our household is where the true sexual stimulation and erotic behavior comes into existence. We are constantly in discussion of philosophy and the psychology of human behavior. We stay up late debating his need to tell me what Rush Limbaugh said on the am station today, and me reminding him that I don't think Rush Limbaugh should be allowed to speak in public. He continually pushes me to my limits of intellectual thinking, and I try not get too pissed off too quickly.
This is the true sub/dom experience. Please don't misunderstand me. I enjoy being tied up to the hooks on our bedroom ceiling. I enjoy being spanked and blindfolded. But without the intellectual stimulation, I think the sub/dom role-playing in the bedroom would be useless.
Awake!
AK
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Post by loke on Jun 19, 2010 17:04:10 GMT -6
coincidentally, a friend of mine told me about this site just last night: www.fetlife.com
looks like a great resource for finding people into that kind of scene. i decided to join myself... and it's free.
VS
Yeah, I've seen this place. A girl I knew had me go on there. After she and I were done, I tried to make friends with a few local girls on there, to see if those girls might respond and want to fuck. None responded, though I am very unfamiliar with all of the terms on there, I just knew that I was DOM. I didn't know what the hell all of those other abbreviations meant. Lots of interesting photos on there though, of women having very strange devices clamped on their tits and vagina. IGROG OZRA, INHA RITEE DAERA!!!!
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