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Post by sin on Jul 30, 2009 8:42:29 GMT -6
The Left Hand Path: Tantra Introduction
I'm versed in LHP Tantra, and thought sharing this information would be useful here, especially as it correlates to the human experience and higher states of consciousness. I also have a small volume library of texts, which focus on the escalations of sexual energy.
Tantra, in general - is a focus on the self, as well as how one understands the universe. It also focuses on the illusions of reality, and what we perceive as true reality.
The idea of "Left-hand Path" originates in Tantra.
Spiritual practice is on the 'Right-Hand' position, where the carnal is on the 'Left-Hand'. An example of this is when a couple engages in the spiritual practice of Tantra, it is customary for the woman to sit on the right hand side of her male counter-part. When it's time to engage in the physical act of Tantra, she switches to the left.
Tantra focus, is to enhance the human experience. In essence, it aids one in developing super-human powers. All senses are heightened, and the realizations made are that ecstatic existence is not only possible, but probable with practice of this tradition.
Tantra is useful for a lagging libido. Aids like Viagra, or other ED drugs may no longer be needed. The libido is corrected and enhanced, on levels - not just physically, but mentally and emotionally as they are interwoven.
The psyche has an abyssal thirst for (com) union, even if that union is with an idea. Androgyny born, the magical child of Shatki and Shiva; the magnetic woman and electric man (not gender specific).
As much as I have a distaste for the duality and polarity of ideas, in this context it aids one in understanding the roles of each.
The Yin and Yang, Shatki and Shiva - each person plays the role of both Shatki and Shiva; by allowing the rise and fall of sexual energy to be transferred. So, what you are doing is practicing the withholding of ejaculation but still having multiple orgasms. It builds and builds, rises and falls. Magnetic and Electric, Electric and Magnetic. Harmony on multiple levels. As the union intensifies, you develop a higher sensory awareness. The pathway to developing the 6th sense. This energy stirs up the kundalini energy; and the result is a heightened life experience, prolonged orgasm, and ritual ecstasy.
Whether you remember the entire Tantric lingo, proper specific ritual practices matters little. It's the idea, which resonates in you that's more important. There are methodologies, which can be utilized without saying a word. Even if you are the only one experiencing them, and your partner has no idea. Your partner will 'know' based on the experience they have with you.
I had recently posted a blog on MySpace about the most important thing about sex. A recent discussion I had a few weeks back, floored me. A couple voiced the idea that the journey was not important at all, but the destination of orgasm. They also have a mediocre sex life, which they avoid - so it's no wonder they hold this idea! I posted the blog, to get feedback from the general public about what they consider to be the most important. The scales were tipped in my favor. Most held that it was the journey, vs. the destination and surprisingly enough there were more people than I expected that stated that having an orgasm wasn't all that important to them. It was the rise and fall of energy, and the sexual experience that they craved.
"Stay with the fire of the beginning, and avoid the poison of the end." -Tantric principle
Explosion, without ejaculation makes any further sexual activity less than satisfying, and often a discomfort. In tantric practice, you are having implosions of sexual energy, so that with each continued sexual activity, the experience is not only satisfying, but raises your libido even higher, hours and hours of this is possible.
It's a strict discipline, and it takes focus and understanding the principles.
Mental play Physical play Control Attachment Independence Spiritual dimension Hyper-consciousness
Tantra is, the LHP of Kama Sutra
Cora’Sahn Wizard of the Terrible Darkness Cult of Cthulhu July 30, 2009
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Post by sin on Jul 30, 2009 10:29:41 GMT -6
The Left Hand Path: Tantra Mental Play
Will
Will is the true, higher and liberated self. When Aleister Crowley focuses on the ‘Will’ “Do as thou wilt…” in Thelema, what is he focusing on specifically? He is speaking of the true self. Tantric Will, is true self, rather than a false self created by compulsions and whimsical impulses. Self-Will, is liberation. It is awakening.
Self-Will breaks down the prison walls of false-self, by removing the societal ideas of ‘normal sexuality’. Anything outside of what society deems as ‘normal’ is persecuted, ostracized, forced under-ground and often snuffed-out: imprisonment of those seeking the Will of the self. Sexual ‘taboos’ are becoming an obsolete idea, but it takes the work of the Self-Will, to make such realizations. In Tantra, Self-Will must be sought with sincerity and true intentions. Otherwise, you will never truly be liberated from the indoctrination of society regarding what is ‘normal’. You will reside in your prison and die; never having experienced an ecstatic existence. If you are experiencing a less-than-satisfying life; seek liberation and Self-Will. Will, is the way.
Tantric Will places the responsibility of one’s actions, into the hands of the true self. If you are not willing to carry the responsibility, there will be no true tantric evolution of the self. Tantric Will evokes higher spiritual ideas, and requires your utmost attention. We come into this world through the act of sex, we have sex, but do we truly experience it? In most societies, from our early childhood we are taught to hide our bodies, to not think ‘impure thoughts and that sex is only for procreation with someone we ‘love’. So how can we ever know the true sexual experience? Anything deemed ‘impure’ by society, is a form of deviance, frowned upon and forced into shadow.
So, how do we break down barriers and doubts so that Self-Will can be realized? The invocation of higher spiritual ideas, such as the Cult of Cthulhu theology, is one of many ships to be taken across the sea. The exploration of philosophical ideas about the self is key in taking the first step in awakening from a deep sleep; and existing in a false reality. There are a plethora of tools available to you, such as human psychology, meditative practice, transcendental experience, and creative expression just to name a few. There are no limitations, as the creator, you are free to be inspired by any idea that provokes you into the state of examination – to include inventing them. Remember yourself, “Nothing is True, and Everything is Permitted!” Intentional acts of Will, have magical power. Unconscious, droning is the pathway to death. You can have a long, prosperous and ecstatic life – if you choose it! Self-Will!
If you can not choose, can not realize, then you are not taking the path of the sly-one, the path of Understanding – the Fourth way has not taken root. I am planting the seed. I will sow it to grow. Will you?
But if you do choose, you can begin the mental play with a partner.
Stage 1: introspection, submissiveness Stage 2: stimulation, eager-control
In Tantra, ‘fantasy’ is not just conjuring up images in one’s imagination – it’s much more than that. It requires control, focus and applying ideas to the Self-Will. All these ideas we hold, these self-created delusions are working towards something; or at least they should be. If you venerate a fictional character, your focus on this character gives it life. It makes it very real to you. The fictional characters of the HP Lovecraft stories, are real to you, they exist in the dimensions of your imagination. The same premise applies to Tantric Fantasy. Breathing technique, communicating ideas, and applying fantasy occurs as an organic process during the act of Tantric Sex, but it is in no way rehearsed. Tantric Fantasy, is not to be confused with role-playing; though role playing plays a role in Tantric Sex. Mental play: this is the time to put your archetypal structures to work for you. Remember, your partner may not be aware of your Tantric skill, but through their experience will have had a Tantric experience.
As mentioned in “Left-Hand Path: Tantra, Introduction” Tantra is an exchange of roles: Shatki and Shiva, Shiva and Shatki; even if your partner is not aware of the transfer of responsibility. You might begin as Shatki, introspective and submissive, then cycle into Shiva as you are stimulated, and seek eager-control. The opposite may occur, in that your partner begins as Shatki, so you then take the role and responsibility of Shiva. Back and fourth, the mental play occurs, continues – rise and fall, fall and rise of this ‘idea’ in action.
There are mental exercises you may perform, which can be borrowed from a variety of sources. You are not limited to the eastern philosophies of Tantra. ‘Fantasy’ is slipping into your archetypes, and becoming. There are so many techniques to explore, spiritual ideas, visualizations, body mechanics, magical voice and invocation. Ask yourself this question: How can you communicate 1000 ideas without saying a word? The possibilities are endless. The mind is the sea; ships may cross it but will never find an end to its explorations.
Cora’Sahn Wizard of the Terrible Darkness Cult of Cthulhu July 30, 2009
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Post by sin on Jul 30, 2009 12:32:48 GMT -6
The Left-Hand Path: Tantra Control
Separating Ejaculation from Orgasm
Yes, it’s possible and it’s in practice right now as you hold your vajra (Tantric for penis) by men who know this secret. This doesn’t just apply to men, but to women as well. Most often women have an orgasm explosion vs. implosion and continuing sex becomes a discomfort and they have to stop, and yes this occurs when women masturbate as well. So girls, hold on to your Yonis! (Yoni is Tantric for vagina). What could be enjoyed for hours on end is diminished to 20 minutes at best. As discussed in “The Left-Hand Path: Tantra, Mental Play” there is implosive and explosive orgasm. The implosive orgasm is based upon control but without the constraint of withholding the desire for orgasm and pleasure. Explosive orgasm is when you ejaculate and for many can’t continue – playtime is over. Inner orgasm decreases arousal slightly, but you are also less sensitive, and less inclined to release. This enables you to continue for hours on end. To experience the inner-orgasm you only need to remember one word: RAMPER (word association: romper, taking a ‘romp’ in the sack)
Relax Awareness Measure yourself Pace yourself Energy circulation and Ride the wave
Relax, take your time. Enjoy all the sensations. Porn-style sex is fun, enjoyable and allows you to release your beast; but you’ll most likely release ejaculate and end your journey short. Relaxation leads to awareness, heightens all of your senses and helps you focus on the pleasure you experience with yourself (masturbation) or with your partner, without the constraints of being on guard, and creating unnecessary tension. Pacing yourself, the pleasure-principle. You can enjoy the ride, without concentrating on the destination. The rise and fall of the sexual energy you produce by experiencing the pleasure. Standing at the Event Horizon, looking over the edge – but you don’t cross it; not yet.
The Energy and circulation, is walking the line, just before you step over to the other side. Taking that energy and experiencing it throughout your entire body, not just your genitals. Riding the wave of ecstasy. A sexual meditation. You are having S.E.X. not sex. A Sensual Energy Exchange. Arousal, leads to letting go. And letting go is good, but if you want an epic sexual experience, there is control involved. When you think of the idea of control, you immediately think of constraints. Change the way you think, the Will-Self determines that ‘control’ is the pathway to ecstasy. If you commit the idea to muscle memory, you won’t have to think about it, at least not consciously. Your subconscious knows what to do, and you are letting go by enjoying the sexual experience in an uninhibited way, but without ejaculating, to end the experience short.
Techniques There are several resources for developing your control technique. I won’t suggest any one source, because I believe in developing your own system. I’ve been calling mine Sexxx Magic for years, but I also call it SinTantric, and a battery of other names depending on my mood. Here’s some ideas to give you a start on your own research:
Sex Thearpy Medical Journals on Ejaculation and Erectile Dysfunction Women’s Sexuality (psychology) Men’s Sexuality (psychology) The sociology of Sexuality: sexual identity, cultural sexuality Eastern Philosophy: Tantra
Cora’Sahn Wizard of the Terrible Darkness Cult of Cthulhu July 30, 2009
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Post by sin on Jul 30, 2009 13:03:59 GMT -6
The Left-Hand Path: Tantra Attachment
As discussed in “The Left-Hand Path: Tantra, Control” utilizing RAMPER, you maintain control and allow yourself to experience the orgasm as an implosive force, enjoying the journey rather than focusing on the destination. Through the ‘Awareness’ aspect of RAMPER, this is your attachment to the physical, while experiencing the euphoria of your heightened senses. If you are not aware of what you are doing, and what you are experiencing, this can lead to detachment. Much like letting go of the string of a helium balloon, and letting it float away. If you detach during the sexual experience, you lose focus and control. This leads to premature ejaculation, and ending the journey earlier than desired. Have you ever had sex, and gotten lost in your own head, only to be returned by your sex partner saying “you seem like you are a million miles away” or “you could be having sex with anyone, it’s like I’m not even here, what’s with you?” You have experienced detachment.
So how do you stay attached? Focus. This is why Tantric sex is different than your traditional sex. Sure, during traditional sex you are focusing on enjoying yourself, but even if you are a tentative partner you can detach. Even during masturbation, you can detach. So, if you find yourself having a 5 minute quickie vs. the hours of passion you promise, you could be detached from the experience.
How do you focus? By learning techniques to stay attached to the experience (See suggested research list: “The Left-Hand Path: Tantra, Control”). Commit it to muscle memory, so you are not ‘focused’ on being focused, but on the experience itself, riding the wave – implosion after implosion, until its climax.
Keep this idea in mind: Stay with me.
Cora’Sahn Wizard of the Terrible Darkness Cult of Cthulhu July 30, 2009
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Post by sin on Jul 30, 2009 13:20:37 GMT -6
The Left-Hand Path: Tantra Independence
It is said that when the god Shiva, the embodiment of pure consciousness, merged in sexual union with the goddess Shakti, the embodiment of pure energy, their Tantric embrace resulted in the creation of the Universe.
How can one speak of independence, when the act of sexual intercourse requires a dependency on two people? Quite simply: each person works independently on his/her own personal journey. You may be concerned with the journey of your partner, but you act independently. You take on the archetypal identities of both Shatki and Shiva, based on your awareness of your attachment. You know when to be Shiva, and when to be Shatki. If your partner is working with the Tantric principles, he/she will also be working independently filling the roles as they cycle. During the cycles which occur during masturbation, you work independently slipping into each archetype as they cycle through. You know when passive arousal is needed, and when aggressive arousal is needed.
RAMPER!
When Aleister Crowley created his ‘Moon Child’, a completely etheric child, it was through the roles of Shatki and Shiva. He created the universe.
As discussed in “The Left-Hand Path: Introduction”, you have specific responsibilities. If you are not willing to carry the weight of these responsibilities how can you ever expect to experience an ecstatic existence? The Tantric Will-Self? It is your responsibility to work independently towards your goals. If each person accepted their personal responsibilities, many of the pit-falls of our species could have been leaps.
Co-dependence has no place in Tantra, nor in the hearts and minds of those that walk the Left-hand path.
Cora’Sahn Wizard of the Terrible Darkness Cult of Cthlulhu July 30, 2009
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Post by sin on Jul 30, 2009 14:05:16 GMT -6
Left-Hand Path: Tantra Spiritual Dimension
Trying to explain ‘spirituality’ to a person, who rejects the idea of the sense of spirit, is often difficult. As a Weak Atheist (Strong Agnostic) myself, people often have an adverse reaction to the idea that Atheists (of any type) understand spirituality, let alone experience it. Most often spirituality is connected to religion, and more and more people are stepping away from organized religion, and its dogma. To me, feeling spiritual is the sense of awe one feels from ecstatic experience.
This is what I’m referring to, in the context of Tantra and its Spiritual Dimensions. Naturally, you experience awe during sex, but the tantric experience offers dimensions of awe. Implosion to explosion. It’s a journey, not a destination. When people speak of ‘mind-blowing’ sex, what are they really talking about? The endless dimensions of ‘awe’ one experiences when drowning in the vast abyss of ecstasy.
This is where your personal aesthetic really comes in to play. All of your fantasies, Tantric and otherwise, are put into action in the dimensional space of your imagination. If you can imagine it, experience it and its biological result is awe – this is the spiritual dimension in LHP Tantra. Taboos are nonexistent in the Spiritual Dimension.
You are your Will-Self in the Spiritual Dimension, free of any constraints, barriers and falsehoods. You are liberated.
Cora’Sahn Wizard of the Terrible Darkness Cult of Cthulhu July 30, 2009
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Post by sin on Jul 30, 2009 14:25:15 GMT -6
Left-Hand Path: Tantra Hyper-Consciousness
Hyper-consciousness is beyond standard consciousness. Just because you are conscious, doesn’t mean you are awake. You are droning about like a zombie, or a machine following commands. Hyper-consciousness is beyond this realm of existence, it’s often referred to as the third dimension. The first dimension (or 1D) is what we are aware of on the surface. The second dimension (or 2D) is what we think we know beyond what we can see, and the third dimension (or 3D) is what we know to be true, our personal gnosis based on experience.
It doesn’t matter if I write a volume of texts on how Tantra works and why, you have to experience it to be able to relate to the idea. When you’ve experienced the multi-dimensions of awareness and ecstasy and become super-human, you’ll know you’ve reached hyper-consciousness. Your gnosis is unverifiable; it becomes your UPG (unverifiable personal gnosis). It doesn’t matter how vividly you explain it, no one will be able to relate to it, because they can not experience your experiences. Your Tantric experience is uniquely different than the next person.
The excitement in which you try to explain it, will peak interest. Perhaps I’ve peaked your interest with these short essays on the subject. I can’t tell you exactly ‘how’ to have a tantric experience, but I can guide you to it. All you need to do, is get aboard the ship and ride the waves across the sea.
What lurks in the depths of the endless ocean, is mystery. Knowledge hidden in plain view. Left-Hand Path Tantra, is an occult practice. Make the connections; develop your own sex rites using the Cult of Cthulhu theology. The orgies are forth-coming, in fact you’ll be beating them off with a jade stick.
Ia, Ia the 3rd Dimension!
Cora’Sahn Wizard of the Terrible Darkness Cult of Cthulhu July 30, 2009
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Post by sin on Aug 4, 2009 6:49:20 GMT -6
This is the primer article for the Green Trapezoid Newsletter.
Thoughts? Feedback?
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Post by glade on Aug 13, 2009 5:41:56 GMT -6
It will make an excellent primer article for the GT. I'd run with it for sure.
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Post by sin on Aug 17, 2009 9:57:19 GMT -6
I reviewed it with the Grotto on last Thursday. The general consensus was that it wasn't 'missing' anything but is this a stand alone introduction to the topic?
My idea was that it would serve two purposes:
1. Provide an intro to tantric practice as an occult tradition 2. Provoke an interest in the CoC theology
thoughts?
Any feedback would be helpful to me finalizing the article for the Green Trap
Thanks, CS
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Post by Lord Void Bharam'ka on Aug 18, 2009 10:12:30 GMT -6
A recent discussion I had a few weeks back, floored me. A couple voiced the idea that the journey was not important at all, but the destination of orgasm. They also have a mediocre sex life, which they avoid - so it's no wonder they hold this idea! Don't you love the shallow American view of Tantra... It is kinda annoying when you try to talk to some one about Tantra and they can't get past the sex part of it and move to the real ideas behind it.... Granted Tantric Sex Practices ARE Fun... But there is so much more... I love the Tantric idea of Taboo Breaking, Doing the Opposite, and pushing Personal Boundaries... For a while if anyone sneezed I would tell 'em "Go to Hell." ;D PS Sorry I couldn't/didn't respond earlier before the 2nd GT was being tied together...
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Post by sin on Aug 18, 2009 10:30:01 GMT -6
A recent discussion I had a few weeks back, floored me. A couple voiced the idea that the journey was not important at all, but the destination of orgasm. They also have a mediocre sex life, which they avoid - so it's no wonder they hold this idea! Don't you love the shallow American view of Tantra... It is kinda annoying when you try to talk to some one about Tantra and they can't get past the sex part of it and move to the real ideas behind it.... Granted Tantric Sex Practices ARE Fun... But there is so much more... I love the Tantric idea of Taboo Breaking, Doing the Opposite, and pushing Personal Boundaries... For a while if anyone sneezed I would tell 'em "Go to Hell." ;D PS Sorry I couldn't/didn't respond earlier before the 2nd GT was being tied together... That's the thing, I wasn't discussing Tantra. I was just talking about sex in general. These are my own ideas, as they correlate to the tantric practice I have designed for myself, utilizing philosophies I have absorbed as well as re-invented.
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Post by Lord Void Bharam'ka on Aug 18, 2009 20:38:51 GMT -6
[ That's the thing, I wasn't discussing Tantra. I was just talking about sex in general. These are my own ideas, as they correlate to the tantric practice I have designed for myself, utilizing philosophies I have absorbed as well as re-invented. Hmmmmm......... Seems pretty true to Tantra (from what I've read so far)... I'll have to finish the others...
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Post by Lord Void Bharam'ka on Aug 18, 2009 20:47:59 GMT -6
Yup...
True Tantra...
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Post by sin on Aug 19, 2009 6:17:03 GMT -6
Do you think it's a stand-alone article? Should I elaborate more on the CoC stuff?
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Post by Lord Void Bharam'ka on Aug 19, 2009 9:49:59 GMT -6
Do you think it's a stand-alone article? Should I elaborate more on the CoC stuff? It can stand alone in as a Tantric/Sex Magic article... What were you thinking of elaborating on... How to use these ideas as a Cultist? Or how it relates to the CoC? I'll have to re-read 'em after work...
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Post by sin on Aug 19, 2009 10:04:18 GMT -6
Yes, I want to tie it in. I'm taking the occult knowledge angle.
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Post by Shaz'rahjeem on Oct 18, 2009 2:43:10 GMT -6
I realize my reply may be a little late but what the hell I'm going to write a little bit anyway. The tantra could fit into the CoC easily if you approached it as ritualizing sex, as a for of magic(not much of stretch). I suppose it would be upto the individual to use tantra this way. Yes I am reminded of sex when Tantra is brought up, but I'm not American so i win anyway I read a book on it a while ago[Tantra for Dummies], which had a lot of religious information in it, mainly Buddhist and Hindu, but it had a few very general points on sexual tantra, most of which where just physical exercises, and practices to help implement tantric practices during sex. eg. whilst sitting down one can flex/ tense the groin muscles. This strengthens them over time and makes control better during the ritual sex. I have never performed ritual sex, to my dismay, but the practices and exercises are useful in general sex anyway.
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Post by sin on Oct 19, 2009 12:30:26 GMT -6
Yeah, I don't use the religious aspects - they don't appeal to me. I am interested most in the practical application, and prolonging sexual ecstasy. Some of the 'symbolism' aids one in understanding the currents of sexual energy.
Feeding the universe from this current, is very CoC theology :-)
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Post by Thoth Respa on Oct 20, 2009 18:47:19 GMT -6
I am very well versed in Luciferian Tantra, and I could give plenty of ideas and rituals if allowed.
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Post by Shaz'rahjeem on Oct 20, 2009 18:52:39 GMT -6
I am very well versed in Luciferian Tantra, and I could give plenty of ideas and rituals if allowed. Well that's what this forum is for, if you have an input don't hold back. Sharing is (s)caring.
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Post by Thoth Respa on Oct 20, 2009 19:02:40 GMT -6
well In luciferian tantra there are two serpents. a black, and red serpent. They entwine up and down your spine. The participant should focus on these serpents, imagining the red serpent crawling up and down the black.
One can then imagine the red serpent shining a bright golden light, or white, but golden works better for me.
Then during intercourse (If able) you can visualize the light pouring from your male organ, or female organ. This will bring extreme pleasure.
Now, to make it cthulhu like, just replace the serpents with tentacles. just an idea.
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Post by Shaz'rahjeem on Oct 20, 2009 20:05:04 GMT -6
The serpents sound very similar to the pingala and ida nadis in buddhism. Which coil around the Chakras. If inded they are, then one could incorporate the third kundalini serpent, which upon reaching the corwn gives enlightenment.
However seeing as we are dealing with lucifer here, i think best to invert it(like with all good things of evil) and this will have it finish at the base chakra(groin) rather then the crown(just above head).
Actually i like where this is going in a spiritual sense. I could speculate as to how it could make sex last longer, but if nothing else it would serva as a distraction. Which is a pretty obvious method of prolonging sex.
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Post by Thoth Respa on Oct 20, 2009 20:17:45 GMT -6
In Adamu which translates to "Ahriman's Kiss", which is Persian sex magick, but pretty much just called luciferian, is a lot of invocations which I can provide, as well as Sexual evocations.
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Post by Thoth Respa on Oct 20, 2009 20:21:05 GMT -6
and they are hindu in nature. The red serpent is viewed as Shakti (Manifestation of lilith, In my own beliefs) and the black serpent viewed as Shiva (Manifestation of Ahriman in luciferianism).
Now, what you can do is perform a sexual invocation to lilith (Which i can provide everyone) and then have intercourse to the image of Lilitu (Lilith), and there the kundalini will be raised beyond ecstacy. Though this does take dedication of course.
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Post by sin on Oct 23, 2009 8:45:59 GMT -6
and they are hindu in nature. The red serpent is viewed as Shakti (Manifestation of lilith, In my own beliefs) and the black serpent viewed as Shiva (Manifestation of Ahriman in luciferianism). Now, what you can do is perform a sexual invocation to lilith (Which i can provide everyone) and then have intercourse to the image of Lilitu (Lilith), and there the kundalini will be raised beyond ecstacy. Though this does take dedication of course. Seems to me, it's the same idea represented by slightly different symbolism (which at closer examination isn't really different at all). What specifically makes it Luciferian? You still have Shatki/Shiva (Passive/Aggressive) energy symbols You have 'invocations' of archetypal structures, though you neglect Lilu as the aggressive/male aspect of the Sumerian wind spirits. You have Kundalini awakening, transcendence. I'm not really seeing the Luciferian symbolism here. Can you elaborate?
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Post by Thoth Respa on Oct 23, 2009 16:34:10 GMT -6
Ill try to elaborate In the luciferian path that I belong to, we use yatukih sorcery. And Shiva would be represented as Ahriman, and Shakti would be represented as Az. Ahriman= Lucifer Az= Lilith When the snakes combine, it is the masculine and feminine going together, thus symbolizing intercourse. Same idea, but different effects.
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Post by azzazzel on May 14, 2010 20:54:58 GMT -6
I like left hand path tantra because it is from the East- and people from the West think Eastern spirituality/religion/philosophy is mysterious and somehow superior to Western thought. As a solo "LHP tantic yoga instructor" I ritualistically eat "Korean fried chicken" while "humping a pillow" and meditating on "transcending duality" and eventually "dissipating into the Great Nothing". Lord Shiva taught me in a vision. This brings me great satisfaction, and I reflect on my "superior spiritual insights" while buying things like "boxer briefs", "octane boosters", fishing equipment", pillow cases" and "knitting yarn" at the local Wal-Mart. Little do they know that a Great Guru walks among them and he salivates upon passing the teriyake beef jerky display.
~~~~~~Azazel~~~~~~
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Post by afterdark on Jul 2, 2010 11:16:08 GMT -6
Let me reccomend a book I started reading by Mantak Chia, "Taoist Secrets of Love". If you can't find the book you can easily *cough*torrent*cough* a collection of his works. It seems that he has a few more books on the subject as well. So far he talked about how women don't have the same trouble as men (being exhausted after sex) due to men getting rid of energy through ejaculation. As its been said in this thread, through certain exercises and practices (which I believe Chia will outline in his books) you can learn to basically recycle that energy in your body rather than expend it. To get a good idea of what kind of energy you're getting rid of, he makes the reader realize that if all the sperm in one orgasm fertilized an egg, then one orgasm could populate the United States. It kind of wakes you up to the power of sexual energy and the fact that it can be used for or against you. Recently I woke up from a depression due to (don't laugh at me) masturbation. I was basically self-destructing myself by just masturbating everyday. Most people can deal with it, but I guess I can't anymore. Or at least not more than once a day. Now I go every 2-3 days and I feel alright. But I'm still reading Chia's stuff and I'm going to work on learning about "injaculation" since it can be dangerous if not done correctly.
Edit: I want to say one last interesting thing, relationships often fail due to an imbalance of sexual energy. It often leads to cheating. There was something about women specifically, but I forgot it, it wasn't as important as the next point. When a man and woman first enter a relationship and have sex, the man in order to get rid of the fatigue desires more sex and then becomes attached to the woman (the woman does in kind of the same way) so after a while this passion fades and they both get weary of each other. If you have sex without the orgasm that can lead to a real great kind of love, rather than wasting the passion. That sort of links to the old ways of not having sex before marriage and the like. Some sort of cultivation needs to happen before orgasm, otherwise it (in most cases) can be ruined.
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Post by Apsara Kamalli on Jul 5, 2010 20:23:01 GMT -6
Edit: I want to say one last interesting thing, relationships often fail due to an imbalance of sexual energy. It often leads to cheating. There was something about women specifically, but I forgot it, it wasn't as important as the next point. When a man and woman first enter a relationship and have sex, the man in order to get rid of the fatigue desires more sex and then becomes attached to the woman (the woman does in kind of the same way) so after a while this passion fades and they both get weary of each other. When two people first enter a relationship, they become addicted to the illusion of the other person. The ego wants the other person, regardless of who they really are because that other person has shown an interest. This feeds the ego and perpetuates the illusion. The reason relationships begin to fade is because it's nearly impossible to continually perpetuate an illusion, especially after you start taking it to levels like living together and marriage.
It's essential to begin the relationship as open about yourself and where you are at in your evolution. This is not to say that you can't or shouldn't have casual sex with random people. However, if you're looking long-term, you have to relinquish control of the ego and truly get to know the other person. This will prevent the weariness that you speak of. Instead, if this is the right person for you, the two of you will only grow closer and more passionate about each other the longer you are together. If you have sex without the orgasm that can lead to a real great kind of love, rather than wasting the passion. That sort of links to the old ways of not having sex before marriage and the like. Some sort of cultivation needs to happen before orgasm, otherwise it (in most cases) can be ruined. After almost seven years in my relationship, I don't think I've ever equated any orgasm to wasting the passion.
Awake!
AK
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