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Post by I AM the Way on Jul 16, 2009 13:37:09 GMT -6
according to NLP, fractionation is the process of taking someone in and out of a hypnotic state, where each time the subject is taken deeper into hypnosis.
why did i post this in the 4th way section and why even mention it at all? well, there are parallels to the Work. some Fourth Way teachers compare our waking sleep state to being hypnotized. sometimes, when we get a taste of being Awake, yet forget to be vigilant against being asleep, we can fall even farther under the world's spell.
when we feel safe, when we feel that we are somehow protected from the danger of living as a machine because we know of the Work, then the earth surely has us where it wants us. only consistent action disturbs the universe enough for us to become conscious for short periods of time. then we are nearest the emerald flame and the nigrescent void, where Dread Cthulhu dreams of the hideous truths... those dark secrets contained within the Necronomicon, a forbidden knowledge writ deep into the essence of every man and woman.
ia ia,
Venger As'Nas Satanis Cult of Cthulhu High Priest
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Post by sin on Jul 16, 2009 13:45:52 GMT -6
Hmmm.
I wonder how this plays a role in transcendental states. Self-hypnotic states are a major part of Ecstasia. The dancer takers herself in and out of this hypnotic state, through conscious and sub-conscious awareness of change in music (bpm, pace, muting).
Trance plays a big role in my personal practices, the archetypal structures are manifested through dance.
My class is tonight, I'll present the idea to the instructor and she what she has to say about it and post up tomorrow.
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Post by sin on Jul 17, 2009 6:23:43 GMT -6
She was familiar with the term, but shes of the opinion that in transcendental dance, the dancer doesn't consciously take his/herself out of the hypnotic state. If it happens, it's usually a 'crash' vs. a systematic taking out. A loud distraction, or someone actually pulling the dancer out - which is why we have Monitors present during ritual.
The crash, shocks the system and isn't often pleasant. Purposeful process, would be ideal.
I was of the opinion, that the musicians or the Iatros *could* do this, by changing the pace of the music, a rise and fall in the hypnotic state. If the dancer is brought back to awareness, the Iatros orchestrates bringing them back in, and the result would be a deeper trance. I've experienced this on my own, when using pre-recorded music, vs. the live music of a drumming procession.
She agreed.
I'll have to experiment with this, when I am with the drummers during my next trance ritual. Purposely changing the music to take me out of the trance state, then back in.
I'll post up results.
Ecstasia Vocabulary:
Monitor: Overseas the ritual, wears red and their job is to watch over the dancer and prevent any disruptions. They also observe the dancer for any signs of distress and act accordingly. The Monitor and the Iatros work together. The progression of a trance ritual will go from Alpha Ecstasis to Evocare, to Fogue ritual (depending on the purpose of the ritual).
Iatros: Experienced, and top musician who leads the music. Wears Royal Blue, the rest of the musicians wear baby blue.
Ecstasia: Transcendental Dance of the Mediterranean. Dancers wear all white, which makes them uninteresting to possessing demons.
Alpha Ecstasis: Light-hearted, celebratory dance, trance for the sake of the trance experience.
Evocare: Evocation Ritual
Fogue: Possession Ritual
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Post by I AM the Way on Jul 17, 2009 13:59:23 GMT -6
yeah, i don't think it would work for dancing. fractionation sounds like it's best suited to gradually draw a subject deeper into whatever hypnotic state you wish.
VS
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Post by whatsupable on Jul 18, 2009 12:47:09 GMT -6
so to look of i understand what you mean
if someone gets awaken and then get back asleep and he think he is still awake and makes it himself easy because he is thinking he is already awaken and because he is thinking that he is getting more asleep and farther from his goal
this is what i thought how you said it
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Post by sin on Jul 20, 2009 7:03:37 GMT -6
yeah, i don't think it would work for dancing. fractionation sounds like it's best suited to gradually draw a subject deeper into whatever hypnotic state you wish.
VS Actually, it does work. The aim of Ecstasia, is trance and hypnotic states. This is not a performance dance, but a ritual dance to change realities.
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Post by bizzzaro66 on Nov 22, 2009 11:02:24 GMT -6
I've been hypnotized before to believe that my hands were invisible, even while looking at my hands it seemed as if I could see right through them....the mind can do strange things!
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