Post by sin on Jul 13, 2009 8:18:45 GMT -6
I'm a member of the Society of Dark Lily yahoo group. It maintains records of all the SODL writings and theologies. I got this in email this morning and I thought it was worth examining here.
"[SoDL] Re: Dark Lily and Gurdjieff
From the Dark Lily Journal No 2, Society of Dark Lily (London 1987).
Another aspect of self is the subconscious. This too, is often
misunderstood and misrepresented as an almost automatic gateway to enlightenment. In fact, the uncontrolled subconscious is a fraud, a phoney which will give you false information. It is a separate entity, an atavistic and undeveloped section of the brain which does not wish to be aroused from its lethargy. As long as it remains in charge, it will feed you false information, use your basic emotions and desires to control you, anything to delude you into leaving it alone. It must be recognised and exposed. The subconscious must be mastered, for it has mastered you since the beginning of your life.
The control of the subconscious is, like the control of the ego, not a
task to be accomplished in one effort, but is a continuing endeavour
throughout one's Occult development. Start by recognising it;
evaluate its communications and realise how much of a disadvantage to the host body the subconscious in its present for is.
The enterprise is far from easy, yet seekers for wisdom have always
existed. Those who attempt to break out from the comfortable lethargy of the subconscious mind's rule. Describing the situation of those who have not comprehended their thraldom, the cliché is "blissful ignorance". Blissful because one is never aware of the ignorance. To win the war against the subconscious means that you will never be blissful again.
Lloyd Said: Yes, this passage from Dark Lily definitely rings of
Gurdjieff. . . but what is to be the self if not the ego or the
subconscious. . . or does Dark Lily differentiate the "ego" from
"waking consciousness" , the ego being the concern with what other think, ie. status in the group, etc?
as you say, ego is concerned with what others think of you, be it good thoughts or bad thoughts etc."
"[SoDL] Re: Dark Lily and Gurdjieff
From the Dark Lily Journal No 2, Society of Dark Lily (London 1987).
Another aspect of self is the subconscious. This too, is often
misunderstood and misrepresented as an almost automatic gateway to enlightenment. In fact, the uncontrolled subconscious is a fraud, a phoney which will give you false information. It is a separate entity, an atavistic and undeveloped section of the brain which does not wish to be aroused from its lethargy. As long as it remains in charge, it will feed you false information, use your basic emotions and desires to control you, anything to delude you into leaving it alone. It must be recognised and exposed. The subconscious must be mastered, for it has mastered you since the beginning of your life.
The control of the subconscious is, like the control of the ego, not a
task to be accomplished in one effort, but is a continuing endeavour
throughout one's Occult development. Start by recognising it;
evaluate its communications and realise how much of a disadvantage to the host body the subconscious in its present for is.
The enterprise is far from easy, yet seekers for wisdom have always
existed. Those who attempt to break out from the comfortable lethargy of the subconscious mind's rule. Describing the situation of those who have not comprehended their thraldom, the cliché is "blissful ignorance". Blissful because one is never aware of the ignorance. To win the war against the subconscious means that you will never be blissful again.
Lloyd Said: Yes, this passage from Dark Lily definitely rings of
Gurdjieff. . . but what is to be the self if not the ego or the
subconscious. . . or does Dark Lily differentiate the "ego" from
"waking consciousness" , the ego being the concern with what other think, ie. status in the group, etc?
as you say, ego is concerned with what others think of you, be it good thoughts or bad thoughts etc."