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Post by demiurge on May 13, 2009 2:43:35 GMT -6
I had some questions wich I tried to post on youtube but it s better here, you gave me the link to this forum.
anyways; here it goes: 1. have you read and if you did what do you think about the writings (books) of carlos castaneda?
2. have you heard of and if you did what do you think of the reptilian conspyracy theories and do they have any conections to your beliefs about the alien architects?
3. do you belive in objective reality/truth?
4. your opinion on alien abduction phenomena, so many alien spicies being described by many contactees (such as ashtar, andromedans, reptilians and other stories about alien friends and foes)
5. do you belive in the existance of lemuria/atlantis and if you do, do you belive there is any objetive information about how life was concipated in those days since there are numerous stories about it from numerous occultists (wich brings us back to question number three)
6. your opinion on the planes of existance/ conciousness, astral and such.
7. your view about the mayan calendar and the predictions about the things to come in 2011, 2012, 2013, new counciousness, end of times and such, polar shifts
sorry if its rude for me to be posting questions for my first post but i m interested in your opinions. also, anyone that wishes to answer the question is also wellcome to give their opinions.
cheers.
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Post by sorrowking on May 13, 2009 8:17:00 GMT -6
Im feeling zany and want to be the first to answer.
1. No 2. No 3. Hell yes. I think all here do. Its one of the foundations of the cult. 4. The universe is infinite and its arrogant to assume that we are the only sentient beings in it. We strive to reach the stars so why wouldnt others? And why wouldnt they do exactly what we would do? Weve done it enough on our home planet after all. Also this cult believes in alien gods and races that were here before man. Look around the forum. Im sure most of these questions are already answered somewhere. Seek the truth. Its what we are about. 5. I believe in the possibility of them as well as Mu and R'lyeh. See answer 3 6. I choose not to answer this as I will go on for hours. Its too broad a question. I would type until my fingers are bloody stubs. 7. Im sticking with the time travel theory. The fact that the end of the Mayan calender dosnt mean the end of the world but the end of linear time by the invention of the first time machine. Time shall become malleable and calenders will be pointless.
By the way. Welcome aboard. Might be a good idea to introduce yourself in the introductions bit.
Also it might be nice to read your answers to your own questions.
Stay groovy.
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Post by I AM the Way on May 13, 2009 10:22:42 GMT -6
my answers to your questions...
1. never read his books, but i know him a little from myspace. seems like a cool guy.
2. yes, i've heard of the reptilian conspiracy, alien visitations, and the general Chariots of the Gods stuff. many things are possible. i believe that an alien influence affected human evolution and it's quite possible that visitors from Outside have contacted humans all the way along.
3. that's a complicated one. everyone operates on a different level. your machine may recognize an "objective truth" that my machine does not. there is truth beyond human understanding, i suppose this would be Godlike truth. however, different dimensions might yield various interpretations of even divine truth.
so, as far as we are concerned here and now, i must answer that man cannot know objective truth / reality. however, having said that, i think the Cthulhu Cult comes much closer to a Godlike awareness than 99% of human beings.
4. maybe, but the question reminds me a little too much of the X Files show for me to take it seriously.
5. i believe it's possible, but i don't know. if there was a civilization that was in touch with the Old Ones, then it makes sense that they would have more knowledge and a higher being than we do now. and the universe would have no doubt destroyed such a civilization in order to keep us enslaved.
6. yeah, this question is very broad. as i said on youtube, we are after higher states of consciousness. that's a primary Cult of Cthulhu goal.
7. i don't put any special credence into the Mayan calender; however, we are entering an age where consciousness is shifting. things are changing and i believe that our organization is at the forefront of this new development. perhaps the year 2012 will be the ultimate turning-point for mankind?
i hope you stay on the CoC forum and continue to post your thoughts.
Venger As'Nas Satanis Cult of Cthulhu High Priest
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Post by demiurge on May 13, 2009 14:38:57 GMT -6
ok, here goes
1. carlos castaneda s books had a great influence on my "train of thought", and i would recomend it to you because it is very inspirative for the left hand(way) path and is also very close to the grudijeff teachings (i haven t read the books just the summary). the difference is c.c. is not a metphisician but an antrophologist who had a lifechanging expirience with a shamman (not a ritualist shamman) of indian yaqui origin while on his fieldwork, and he introduced him to the way of the "warrior" - a person who strives to unchain himself from this world and be free - if you read the book you will see what is that about. he first intoroduces him to his teachings by using halucinogenic plants (peyote, shrooms and other freaky stuff) - in the first book - but later tells him theyy will stop using them and seek power the other way. the whole metaphisic story comes from his shamman (nagual) - don juan matus - who has other apprentices (warriors) and castaneda describes his expiriences with them. i could go on for hours, he had media coverage for the first book (in the 70s) since it became a hit in that time, but later he was considered a fraud that made up the crachter, many anthropologists belived him, some thought that don juan was a character that castaneda invented to bringthe teachings wich he gathered from many spiritual figures, bla, bla. the books are very usefull, intense, and very good (in my opinion) - i recomend them ( twelve books)
2. i m agnostic towards the reptilian conspiracy theory. the theory claims the world is being ruled by a race of extraterrestrial reptilian beings from the 4th density (state of conciousness), and that they use us as food and feed on negative emotions, wich they secure they get by securing important political power to their bloodline families (bush, rotschild, rockefeller) wich secure wars, poverty, diseases etc. it combines all conspiracy theories plus the additonal claim wich i just stated. the issue varries from deep metaphisical looks on our reality to just plain paranoia in wich everyone is acused for being a shapeshifting lizzard. david icke is the most popular author in the genre, popular here in croatia (in the negative and positive way). i could say a lot on the subject but currently don t have the time
3. i don t know, i thing priests answer is similar to mine.
4. it takes us back to the reptilian conspiracy in wich the grey aliens ( the most common sppecies in the abduction phenomena) are their workers wich genetically alter us, put implants, impregnate the women, an try to create a race wich is the most suitable for their energy feeding needs (look at it like this - they eat us, we eat animals, animals eat other animals etc.). i know people wich have had encounters in their childhood with both reptilians and greys and had a lot of strange ocurrances such as unexplaind pregnant bellies wich later dissapeared, implants etc. i never expirienced the phenomena, but i belive it is a multidimensional phenomena because people expirienced lot of freaky shit (like being taken to places by thought, abductions byy elves, dwarves and other crazy stuff). i think carl gustav jung also has great thoughts on the phenomena.
5. yes but there are so many stories i don t know wich i belive in, but i belive there are many evidence of the phisical nature of their existance wich modern science comunity (intentionaly or not) makes fun of and neglects, such as pyramids all over the world, underwate structures (the one in yucatan wich is allegadlly by the self proclaimed sceptics a natural structure - statistically it is almost impossible for nature to do such a sturture).
to be continued, i m tired.
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Post by Shaz'rahjeem on May 13, 2009 18:27:49 GMT -6
1. No
2. I am generally lent to the the idea that we were likely manipulated my alien species. However i do believe, that we could really pin-point a specific one until we first have proof of the species.
3. no and yes. I believe that we are in a subjective reality, which sits above the objective reality. This layering is within each humans mind, and therefore we each experience a different subjection to this reality. And that no-one can truely have an objective perception whilst they are still within this existence.
4.i believe there are species out there. however i do not believe that we have been contacted in such manners. simply because the three types of people who experience this are 1. lonely nuts needing attention, 2. people who desperately believe so therefore are more likely to fabricate, or mistake a dream as an abduction/ contact etc. 3. most of them coincide with a sleep disorder. and the description of the abduction is exactly like this sleep disorder. The aliens are just experienced because that is what is in our culture at the moment, the same disorder is recorded in the middle ages and was at that time attributed to witches.
5. i don't not believe in, but i don't really bother with it. It doesn't have any relevance to me, or what i do.
6. I believe in the objective and subjective reality, separated only by human consciousness and thinking. I believe that there is likely astral levels, and angular dimensions. I believe there is also likely higher levels of existence and also perhaps sub-dimensions within human consciousness.
7. i do not believe in that Mayan calender. as for end of times well... in a biblical sense perhaps, but it think there is a lot more to it then most people look at. in a Revelations kind of way, it would seem we are come to an apocalypse, however again i say theres a lot more to it. For example, there is mistranslations in the bible in things like Jesus saying "i will be with you to the end of time" when in the older bibles its says "i will be with you until the end of the age" which makes sense with the pagan star wheel. In that Jesus is represented as a fish, and that we are in the age of Pisces, which evidently started around 2000 years ago, and is due to end around 2015 or so. there is alot of pagan astrology in the bible which has been misinterpreted. The Mayan doomsday calender could also bee something along these lines as well. We know they studied the stars and built entire temples aligned with them, so its not a far stretch to say they may have held similar predictions. As for polar shifts... well the only thing i know about that is global warming, which i do believe is real.
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Post by demiurge on May 14, 2009 1:32:35 GMT -6
i respect your opinion, but all the people you ve described are the exact oposite of the people i know that claim to have expirienced it. they are not nuts (by the way, nuttieness is such a subjective term, i mean, look at what this forum is all about, let an averege joe read what you are discusing here he is probablly gonna think you re a nut, a dangerous nut. people i know who have expirienced are both openminded and spiritual, and are not some lunatics with insomnia, in fact it was those kind of expirience that led them to this state of conciousnes. most of them belive they are here with not so good intentions, but some think they are positive. i really think there is much knowledge we can gain about our universe and reality, there are many people that are coming out with information about them. recently, edgar mitchell, the sixt person to have walkek on the moon, said the goverment is covering up existance of such species, mostly from the roswell incident. it s a multidimensional,issue and it needs the attention.
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Post by Shaz'rahjeem on May 14, 2009 4:09:46 GMT -6
those people may not fit into the nut category, and yes i agree that often open minded people are easily labeled insane, nut etc. but being open minded does not make their stories anymore credible. please do not mistake me for the type to just dismiss these things at a glance. I have seen some pretty strange things myself, herd some very interesting stories and watched some interesting accounts on the topic.
the sleep disorder is not insomnia. I am not sure what its called, but it has been attributed to people, whom when they sleep are more susceptible to radio waves, beta waves etc. The general experience is that they awaken and feel stuck within there bed. This is because there mind is awake, and there eyes etc. however the muscle have not regained control due to the brain shutting them down during sleep. then people think they are being dragged through an alien space ship hall ways or somethings, and i think the rest is pretty generic. in the middle ages people would wake up and rather than see aliens, they would think a witch was sitting on their chest, and then be sucked through caves into hell. the similarities are quite interesting. In Japanese culture they have a similar experience involving an old lady carrying a lantern.
ofcourse just because of the similarities, and history to the condition, does not mean that all abductions fitting this description can be written off as this. I do not try to, at the same time in doesn't mean that because people have such similar account it is true either. the amount of media cover on the topic, and the cult following that it has of course people are going to have similar experiences regardless. This is in a sense some evidence of the subjective influence on the human mind.
I have yet to encounter a story which can't really be covered by these, or some other explainable phenomenon. Truly, we can't prove it until they arrive in reality for all to see, and say "yea... we've been fucking with dumb-asses for a while now"
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Post by demiurge on May 14, 2009 7:45:07 GMT -6
it s called sleep paralasys, at least in the medical dictionary, and yes, i know in the medieveal ages the aliens were actually demons and other fantastic creatures (a lot of people also see demon like craatures to this day in sleep paralysys). my optional viewpoints are these: 1. aliens are really from other galaxies, their technology is light years ahead of ours, and they can travel distances in the blink of an eye for they are also multidimensional beings with psychic powers, use us as an experiment, food, or whatever... they are either bad or good, maybe they are working secretly with the government, maybe not, bla, bla... 2. aliens are the cause of the human collective conciousness, and they take forms wich are in coherence with the times and the views wich humans currently have, they might be a negative or the positive force of human duality. they are both physical and spiritual phenomena with a pourpose in further human spirit-body evolution. maybe they are modern-day fallen angels so to speak. 3. they are both of the first and second viewpoint, and there is no actual objective truth to why they are here, since they are in the higher planes of existance, so it is too complexe to fully understand what they acctualy are. maybe they are what we think they are... 4. we are alone in the universe(very unlikely), the universe has no concious at all, it is just good clockwork, there is no spirit, all is material or energy wich is again part of material world, their is no higher purpouse, aliens are a product of the chaotic and complecse brain structure (in this i don t belive since i am spiritual by nature and belive everything has a higher purpouse but also give it a chance to be true). by the way, exuse me for probably a lot of misspelled words
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Post by Shaz'rahjeem on May 14, 2009 16:15:50 GMT -6
those types of aliens are far more likely (IMO) then say the little grey men and those other generic types.
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Post by A'Zodul F'eid on Jan 23, 2010 12:36:58 GMT -6
1. Nope sorry.
2. I don't believe so.
3. Very much so.
4. I respect their claims, but require some additional proof.
5. I believe in the sunken city in which Cthulhu sleeps. I'd not be surprised if Atlantis was somehow related to that, but for now I guess my answer is no, I don't know of the connection.
6. The planes are as they are. You will experience them in your way, and I in mine.
7. I do not believe the end is nigh, but if it is my affairs are in order.
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