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Post by amble on Mar 21, 2009 20:49:19 GMT -6
this sounds likes a good exercise. I'm going to try it properly later on and i'll let you know how it goes.
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Post by Shaz'rahjeem on Mar 22, 2009 5:53:56 GMT -6
It has many applications so try it some time.Lemme know if I wasn't clear enough or how it works for you. No, you were quite clear. I like when people in, not only the coc forums but any occult forum, give detailed instructions on some exercise. To many people leave things so brief and vague that you can't follow it and so, when it fails its you to blame. I will try this excercise next time i meditate. I imagine it will be easy still so i figure it will be a good place to start.
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Post by Xor'Nefthrahm on Mar 22, 2009 9:52:47 GMT -6
I tried your exercise with the second face.. good job! I too can only hold it for a few seconds. The "blank space" seems to be a slightly different room than what I am in.. in fact, I think I seen shadows moving. Maybe we are seeing the other perspective with our third eye, allowing us to pick up astral objects and beings. The room seems greyish and kinda rocky.. strange..
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Post by Xor'Nefthrahm on Mar 22, 2009 10:06:33 GMT -6
Here's something I like to do at work.. the typical OUTSIDE visualization that you spoke of. I seem to see the same type of realm as I do with your exercise. While walking at work, I visualized a crow flying in the store, instead of another head, and from there SEEN from it's perspective simultaniously while seeing with my eyes. I would then walk down those aisles, and see if the people I saw were really down there. My visions were about 65%-75% accurate. I had trouble seeing colors, besides brite ones such as bright red. I wonder if some of the other people down the aisles that were NOT physically there were astral entities? Or just my imagination? Or people that WOULD be there? Or WERE there an hour ago? Was I viewing several times at once? Do you believe this may be a form of astral bi-location?
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Post by Xor'Nefthrahm on Mar 22, 2009 10:09:35 GMT -6
It becomes easier with repetition. Its useful for dealing with demons but a little more dangerous.A few times I have gone up to step 3 and seen things I never consciously placed on the backdrop (scary sometimes) only to see what ever it is in the room around me. Hmm probly viewing an astral pocket that gets invaded from outside astral beings unintentionally. I think I will use this exercise in my study of necromancy. Just call the spirits into that empty place you create, an see them that way. Will take some practice to hold it!
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Post by Xor'Nefthrahm on Mar 22, 2009 19:13:41 GMT -6
I'm definitely going to try the execise that you do at work when I am outside sometime.That seems pretty cool Your theory on what it does is probably right.I don't think a barrier or banishing is really needed since you are peering into an internal realm.Its not likely you'd get attacked by anything unless you did some really jacked up stuff in your past and pissed something off (like yours truly). The interesting thing is that even if you do not hold step number five and just hold step number 4,you still will pick up things your working with moving within your blank space.I think clairvoyants do a variation of something like this.If something moves on its own,don't try to control that thing,see what it does,watch maybe. Could be interesting. Just don't try to imagine reptilian people in there or things will get bad.I kid you not,they are real and really really dislike humans so those are not what you wanna summon or experiment with too much (I freakin kid you not!I am not making this up,they are real and quite dangerous.For me to say something like this to people who probably deal with demons and spirits on a regular basis no doubt means that I am not kidding) I feel a strange affinity for the reptilian people, I am drawn to them.. but I will heed your warning. You know you are the second person to mention those beings within a 2 day span? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- khaemwese Re: Dreams of Lemuria? « Result #31 Yesterday at 1:29pm » I've had experiences with reptilian people, while working on some necromancy and going back in time/incarnations I bridged myself to that time. It freaked out some spirits I was working with, for they were not of that time. So I stopped as a courtesy to them, may have to look back into it now that I have more information to go on. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Strange, no? Tell me more about the reptiles! I keep hearing about them, but I never "met" one, even though I sometimes dream of them.
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Post by amble on Mar 25, 2009 13:47:54 GMT -6
What you are describing at step six is similar to what i have read of scientist's explanations of the 4th dimension would (5th if you count time as a dimension). The ability to see all things from all angles. The reason we can only see in one direction or from one viewpoint is because we are focused on conciousness. If you can detach yourself from that consciousness, supposedly you would be in a position to experience all things at once. Then you would focus on what it is you would want to concentrate upon. There was a video on youtube that explained it in a very roundabout complicated way. That's what i understood by what you described anyway.
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Post by Shaz'rahjeem on Mar 25, 2009 18:08:22 GMT -6
Thats one of the best youtube.com videos i have seen in ages, thanks for posting that. I have tried the excercise most recently described jmsn not exactly as you have put it, but in a similar way. It is a difficult one indeed. I usually find that i can't visualise what i would see from multiple points beyond what i see clearly. But i do imagin what it would be like, however even these are bound to be wrong, because either the imgainations are just to seperate images beside eachother, or an overlapped blur inwhich you can't really focus on a single point. However if you want to try an excercise that might help try using a green mirror. They can help to focus on individual objects with out actually looking at a single thing.
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