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Post by eldritchentity0 on Oct 27, 2008 20:13:07 GMT -6
I read somewhere in here about Demons being summoned in the name of the boss demons and not the enemy godnames and threats that pisses them off can certainly be in for some trouble I agree. But one thing I am trying to understand about demons is how in the world can the be inside of us and outside of us??? I want some explanation on this because I felt a voice tell me that Satan or all of those infernal spirits are beings that exist in the inner dimensions of ourselves!
Well,the only thing I could come up with is Consciousness, and Energy and learning the physics and quantum physics.Is that when we put ourselves in a certain vibratory state of being we become One with hat unfathomable source the neutral source.So that is quiet the idea I wasnt expecting to bomb to mymind but it did.
so I have no idea what to think any explanation for this strange view ?
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Post by amble on Nov 2, 2008 22:15:23 GMT -6
It's the same as how, at least going by the quantumn physics version of things, anything that you can see, or touch, or hear, is already a part of the particles that you are composed of. Anything without is necessarily within, otherwise you would not be able to comprehend it. That's my understanding at least.
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Post by Madguten on Nov 5, 2008 7:35:28 GMT -6
Yes, i think that sounds just about right.
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Post by sin on Nov 5, 2008 11:07:30 GMT -6
I read somewhere in here about Demons being summoned in the name of the boss demons and not the enemy godnames and threats that pisses them off can certainly be in for some trouble I agree. But one thing I am trying to understand about demons is how in the world can the be inside of us and outside of us??? I want some explanation on this because I felt a voice tell me that Satan or all of those infernal spirits are beings that exist in the inner dimensions of ourselves! Well,the only thing I could come up with is Consciousness, and Energy and learning the physics and quantum physics.Is that when we put ourselves in a certain vibratory state of being we become One with hat unfathomable source the neutral source.So that is quiet the idea I wasnt expecting to bomb to mymind but it did. so I have no idea what to think any explanation for this strange view ? If I may? Have you dabbled in Daemonolatry? If not, the easiest way to break it down, in the simplest of terms is this: Strip away all Abrahamic influence, and get back the paleo-pagan usage and definitions of what Demons, Daemons, and Daimons are. They are simply forces in nature, they can be interpreted as both internal and external natural forces - like the micro/macro cosm. The Magi, use them similar to elementals, or spiritual alchemy. They can manifest, in such a way that they can become tangible things, or tangible actions. It's all in the eye of the beholder. The 'demons' of Abrahamic peopls are simply demi-gods that have been vilified. Consider Lilith. This 'character' is based on the Sumerian Air God, who is later vilified by the Hebrews, the story of Lilith takes on a new face, as the first wife of Adam who leaves eden because she will not submit her will. She knows the true name of God, and calls upon it. God does not stop her from leaving the garden. She retreats to a cave, where she becomes the succubi. A force that tempts men, drains them of their life-force, and steals babies in their cribs. Ideas carried on the winds. The people were so afraid of Lilith's power, they fashioned protective amulets to protect themselves. Sounds like Lovecraftian mythology, doesn't? Rather than tentacles out of the dark depths of the sea, Lilith's serpentry is carried by land and by air - into the hearts and minds of men. Strip away the Abrahamic influence, what is Lilith in reality? The natural force of opposing, taking a stand, controversy, temptation, and sex.
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Post by eldritchentity0 on Nov 5, 2008 12:49:24 GMT -6
Yes I have dabbled in demonaltry but the responses actually make sense.
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Post by sin on Nov 6, 2008 10:59:38 GMT -6
Yes I have dabbled in demonaltry but the responses actually make sense. I have been corresponding with a Daemonolotrist that was raised in a family oral tradition. The way he and his family see 'demons' as benign forces, these forces are beneficial, steps to higher consciousness - so this falls in line with your reasoning on the matter. :-)
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Post by astennoth on Nov 7, 2008 0:27:12 GMT -6
Personally, I've had a lot of positive experiences with Demons/Daemons/Daimons...fuck it, I'll just spell it as Demons.
I created an ultra-cool method to summoning Demons that I'd be happy to share with anyone who sends me a pm.
Demons are benevolent, enlightened forces that are here to protect us and to enlighten us as they themselves are enlightened.
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Post by Xor'Nefthrahm on Nov 7, 2008 18:38:44 GMT -6
Personally, I've had a lot of positive experiences with Demons/Daemons/Daimons...fuck it, I'll just spell it as Demons. I created an ultra-cool method to summoning Demons that I'd be happy to share with anyone who sends me a pm. Demons are benevolent, enlightened forces that are here to protect us and to enlighten us as they themselves are enlightened. I would love to hear your methods! I actually took time out from life, becoming something of a social hermit, the last month to get reaquainted with my old demon "friends". They are very helpful because we share the same essence as them! I also came to the conclution that Satan IS Cthulhu.. any other thoughts on the matter? I use the Demonic Enns and occationally their Goetic Seals in meditation while repeating their names to get their attention.. also, try sleeping with one of their seals under your pillow for NICE "dreams".
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Post by astennoth on Nov 7, 2008 22:45:45 GMT -6
I like to use Michael Ford's Luciferian Goetia as a reference point. But I realized there's more demons than just the ones in there. You can speak with the A:O the same way you speak with demons...use whatever method you please. I will make a post about summoning demons in the magic section soon...
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Post by eldritchentity0 on Nov 10, 2008 15:27:13 GMT -6
Please do share your summoning methods I am always up to add some spice up to my demon summonings too lol
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Post by mothman99 on Dec 8, 2008 22:49:35 GMT -6
I was always mad at the Abrahamic texts: Abramelin, Solomons keys. I was ready to burn my copy of Abramelin as a symbolic protest hahaha. Everything got put in that context...why am i going to make a circle to protect me from Astaroth (Astarte, Ishtar), call on Archangels Michael, Gabriel whatever for their help, and then summon Astaroth into a triangle and ask him / her for money? Its disrespectful and stupid. Are there any texts from the middle ages, or before, that deal with these forces from a sympathetic view, as opposed to the hostile view taken by medieval magicians and demonologists? Perhaps they just had to cloak everything in a pro-judeochristian context, like the alchemists did, in order to avoid persecution. But it makes researching that stuff real annoying.
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