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Post by Xor'Nefthrahm on Aug 20, 2008 9:01:21 GMT -6
OK.. i'll start from the begining.. about 4 years ago, me and my girlfriend (now my wife) was sitting in my mothers basement watching TV.. suddenly we saw this shadowy black mass come down the wall in the corner behind the TV, and then fly acrost the floor strait at us.. I turned on the light, it was gone. It was about 2 feet tall.. maybe 1 1/2. Well 2 nights ago I started hearing this noise on the balcony, like something was scampering out there.. I got a flashlight and went out there.. nothing.. kept hearing it. The belcony is on the third floor, so it's not like whatever it is just ran off.. it sounded like something that is at LEAST 10 lbs walking around. Suddenly, my wife, who had to work early so she went to bed without me, woke up yelling what the fuck and called me into our room. She said when she was asleep she heard this course sound, kinda like Taco Bell paper towels being rubbed together. The more awake she got, the faster and loader it got.. when she awoke, to her horror, and my puzzlement, the bottom half of the bed was rocking back in forth, tossing one leg up a bit, then the other, kind of like if something small was standing and strattleing her legs, and rocking back and forth. When she awoke and saw this, she pulled her ligs up, and the bottem of the bed kept moving, but then slowed down and stopped as "I" approched the room. She got up and was telling the story to me in the kitchen, and suddenly she said it felt like something touched her feet.. right after that I felt a small cold draft around me, and felt vibrations on the floor like I would if one of our cats were to walk by. NONE of the cats were in the room during the bed incident either.. they were out in the living room fighting a toy mouse. But before this, like a week after moving in, we started seeing a shadowy figure moving around the apartment, sometime out of the courner of our eyes it even looked kinda like a animal, maybe catlike.. we dont feel threatened, sense no malevolence.. it's just weird.. Neither of us do drugs, I havent since 14 (26 now) my wife NEVER did any.. I have a few ideas from some websites, as well as the TAPS (Ghosthunters) home page, which talks about various spirit types, but WTF is this thing?
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Post by luxcthonis on Aug 20, 2008 12:01:07 GMT -6
I'm very interested to hear how this works itself out. Your story reminded me of something that happened to my mother manyyears ago (when I was .... around 8 or so...). I was across the apt. and my mom was in her bedroom at the far end. All of a sudden she began to cry out (I don't remember what) but when I got to her room she was terrified. She said that her bed just started shaking for no reason (not the building, just the bed), even lifting up off the floor. She was obviously shaken by the experience.
Whatever it is, perhaps you should try to aquaint yourself with it? Then again, if your girlfriend isn't aligned with the A:O, then she may not be down with that idea, haha
Keep us posted, and let us know how it turns out.
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Post by Xor'Nefthrahm on Aug 20, 2008 13:01:42 GMT -6
Hehe THe first thing she asked was "What did you summon this time?!". She doesnt like me doing such things in the house, but I do it anyways seeing how im in an apartment and have little choice if I want to practice magick. She believes that "IM" haunted, not the places we live at. But I got a new witchboard today www.carnivalia.com/pics/WB_Eye.jpg link to a picture from the website I got it from.. ANYWAYS I got the name Qyol, which after much interragation, found out it is pronouced Kale. And then the word Ayr came up.. doing a search on that, only the name of some town in Scotland came up that shared that name.. Also got some nonsense, and Yorol, whatever that is. It CLAIMED to be nonhuman.. nondemon.. it said MAYBE when asked if it was a Sidhe.. But I think the answers it gave me that seemed jibberish may be gaelic.. IF it is a Sidhe.. I told it that if it was just some lower astral entity or a human spirit, that I would feed on it or try to devour it if it decieved me (I practiced a bit of psi vampirism a few times). It said it understood. And then I said sorry if I seem harsh but I dont being lied to. It said its ok. But over all, it gave VERY few answers that were intelegible.. maybe just inhuman with a lack of knowlege of english? If it is just some astral critter.. I WILL devour it if it causes any more ruckus and refuses to properly communicate! Alot of those beings freak when you start to do that..
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Post by Xor'Nefthrahm on Aug 20, 2008 13:05:26 GMT -6
She said before that Dagon is haunting her hehe.. I'm very interested to hear how this works itself out. Your story reminded me of something that happened to my mother manyyears ago (when I was .... around 8 or so...). I was across the apt. and my mom was in her bedroom at the far end. All of a sudden she began to cry out (I don't remember what) but when I got to her room she was terrified. She said that her bed just started shaking for no reason (not the building, just the bed), even lifting up off the floor. She was obviously shaken by the experience. Whatever it is, perhaps you should try to aquaint yourself with it? Then again, if your girlfriend isn't aligned with the A:O, then she may not be down with that idea, haha Keep us posted, and let us know how it turns out.
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Post by luxcthonis on Aug 21, 2008 12:07:24 GMT -6
Sort of off topic, but I just watched the movie "Witchboard" (1986) the other night. ;D
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Post by I AM the Way on Aug 21, 2008 13:11:15 GMT -6
and...?
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Post by michael on Aug 21, 2008 13:44:59 GMT -6
That sounds like an unintentional servitor created by you.
Before practicing the "left hand path" did you face all of your internal demons?
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Post by Xor'Nefthrahm on Aug 21, 2008 22:56:16 GMT -6
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Post by luxcthonis on Aug 22, 2008 12:59:02 GMT -6
and.... it was awesome? lol I am beginning to realize I have a thing for mid-80's movies, they make me very nostalgic. Seeing actresses like Heather Langenkamp (aka Nancy Thompson), Kim Richards, and Tawny Kitaen (from Witchboard) definitely take me back to a lovely time. These days murder and horror is so overplayed, hardly anything is scary anymore; those 80's killers were the best!
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Post by michael on Aug 22, 2008 14:52:35 GMT -6
Good. I forget sometimes the amount of experts on this forum. ^_^ Has anyone died that was close to you since you've been born?
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Post by Xor'Nefthrahm on Aug 22, 2008 22:06:23 GMT -6
Or those who THINK they are experts! What they dont know is that we are forever students.. Yeah.. ALOT of close people died around me.. Grandfather, Grandmother, 2 great grandmothers, an Aunt, a Great Aunt and Uncle, and a couple friends from highschool. My grandma was one of the last ones to die, but she was ready to go 2 years ago, so she wouldnt have a reason to hang around.. though she was seen a few times the first week of her death.. but not since. But I dont know why any of them whould appear small, impish, and have a name like Qyol (mostly German and Irish in my family).. It could be someone ELSES thoughtform.. I dated alot of women who ended up being kind of unstable.. and they ALL dabled in the occult.. one has the simonomicon even! Hmm...
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Post by Madguten on Aug 23, 2008 4:56:12 GMT -6
Indeed, the illumination may very well be an illusion, as sanity may very well be a parody. Every breath is a lesson and so we are always wiser than we were before. But the clarity might in reallity be cloudedness. And our wisdom may be folly. ;D Women are often quite occult. Some of them are even at the limit of being "witches" without realizing it themselves. It just streams from within them. I never meet those kinda women though. ;D
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Post by martin on Aug 23, 2008 10:15:03 GMT -6
Hey dont wanna put a dampener on things but Ayr is a coastal town in The South west of Scotland not a million miles from where I come from. Gealic was never spoke in this part of Scotland. Its a lowland town, Scotts is the language of this area, Which is very similar to English. Check out Robert Burns as an example. Im no expert in Scotts But would be happy to look at the gibberish to see if I can make somthing of it
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Post by Xor'Nefthrahm on Aug 23, 2008 22:40:10 GMT -6
So that rules out the gibberish being gaelic.. the things that did look like words was NOT gaelic for sure.. when I searched them search results from all over the world came up. Like the name Qyol, the word Ayr (of course) and then what seems kinda gibberish Yorol, Mup, and Mozok.
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Post by martin on Aug 24, 2008 13:41:25 GMT -6
At moment playing about with the phonetics for Glasgow dialect do you have any more details. How was it actualy laid out. Glasgow dialect is an old music hall joke, parleano Glaswgian. for example if I write PutRaBootRiteInTayHim. or in English Kick him when he's down.(Put the boot right in to him)yorol- could be "your all " or Your oldmup-"my pee"mozok-"mothers ok These are only possibilities.
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Post by Xor'Nefthrahm on Aug 24, 2008 22:59:38 GMT -6
At moment playing about with the phonetics for Glasgow dialect do you have any more details. How was it actualy laid out. Glasgow dialect is an old music hall joke, parleano Glaswgian. for example if I write PutRaBootRiteInTayHim. or in English Kick him when he's down.(Put the boot right in to him)yorol- could be "your all " or Your oldmup-"my pee"mozok-"mothers ok These are only possibilities. Hmm least they seem to link in some way.. but what sort of thing could it be? I dont have any Scottish relatives.. the only thing in the Brittish Isles area would be Irish. And what kind of name is Qyol? Doesnt sound Scottish unless when I asked the name it gave me another play on words..
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Post by Xor'Nefthrahm on Aug 25, 2008 9:21:19 GMT -6
Indeed, the illumination may very well be an illusion, as sanity may very well be a parody. Every breath is a lesson and so we are always wiser than we were before. But the clarity might in reallity be cloudedness. And our wisdom may be folly. ;D Women are often quite occult. Some of them are even at the limit of being "witches" without realizing it themselves. It just streams from within them. I never meet those kinda women though. ;D My wife has a strong magickal sense, but alas, she hates magick. She thinks too much can go wrong, and doesnt want to risk it. And she hates all religions. She believes in spirits of all manner, and DOES believe that you can employ them, but she says that all organized religions become like Christianity, and eventualy try to push their beliefs on others. She seems to have a strong connection with Dagon.. though she tries to avoid the subject.. she doesnt want to worship anything..
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Post by martin on Aug 25, 2008 14:16:57 GMT -6
Most spirits that speak through Ouija boards are not particuarily smart enjoy causing trouble and can't spell for shit. We assumed it was Scottish Qyol (kale) Ayr. But you had just bit BIG chunk out of it and it wasn't the least Bit Happy! Say Qyol ayr quickly. KILLER. the rest is either gibberish like you said or some attempt at a threat
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Post by jmsn on Aug 25, 2008 19:01:02 GMT -6
OK.. i'll start from the begining.. about 4 years ago, me and my girlfriend (now my wife) was sitting in my mothers basement watching TV.. suddenly we saw this shadowy black mass come down the wall in the corner behind the TV, and then fly acrost the floor strait at us.. I turned on the light, it was gone. It was about 2 feet tall.. maybe 1 1/2. Well 2 nights ago I started hearing this noise on the balcony, like something was scampering out there.. I got a flashlight and went out there.. nothing.. kept hearing it. The belcony is on the third floor, so it's not like whatever it is just ran off.. it sounded like something that is at LEAST 10 lbs walking around. Suddenly, my wife, who had to work early so she went to bed without me, woke up yelling what the fuck and called me into our room. She said when she was asleep she heard this course sound, kinda like Taco Bell paper towels being rubbed together. The more awake she got, the faster and loader it got.. when she awoke, to her horror, and my puzzlement, the bottom half of the bed was rocking back in forth, tossing one leg up a bit, then the other, kind of like if something small was standing and strattleing her legs, and rocking back and forth. When she awoke and saw this, she pulled her ligs up, and the bottem of the bed kept moving, but then slowed down and stopped as "I" approched the room. She got up and was telling the story to me in the kitchen, and suddenly she said it felt like something touched her feet.. right after that I felt a small cold draft around me, and felt vibrations on the floor like I would if one of our cats were to walk by. NONE of the cats were in the room during the bed incident either.. they were out in the living room fighting a toy mouse. But before this, like a week after moving in, we started seeing a shadowy figure moving around the apartment, sometime out of the courner of our eyes it even looked kinda like a animal, maybe catlike.. we dont feel threatened, sense no malevolence.. it's just weird.. Neither of us do drugs, I havent since 14 (26 now) my wife NEVER did any.. I have a few ideas from some websites, as well as the TAPS (Ghosthunters) home page, which talks about various spirit types, but WTF is this thing? The weird thing is I tend to see a black cat shrouded in shadows or shadowy blurs (really creepy) out of the corner of my eyes as well.Its weird because when I read this ,it took me back. I don't deal with occult or lhp stuff anymore but I still see it.Not as frequently as before.Things never touch or disrupted anything in my home though.I doubt its possible 2 people share the same internal demons.I think whatever it is may be external. Its a leap out of the mundane for me to admit it may be something with its own will seperate from your mind but Im considering the possibility there are things and beings we don't know about out there that aren't a part of a mage's subconscious.I just pretty much ignore these things when they appear.They seem to pass right through about their own business.Focus on them and things get nasty,especially before nap-time. I havent practiced magick as long as most folk here but I seen strange things long as ZI could remember that weren't hallucinations.My advice is don't think about it and tell your wife to do the same before you go to bed. On the bright side be glad you didn't see the 6-7 ft shadowy things.I theorize they ride a person's consciousness.I was young at the time but after the three of them appeared 2 weeks worth of conscious awareness of everyday life vanished leaving me to fill in the massive gap by asking people wth i did for two weeks. Its possible your rituals jarred them or put them in some sort of frenzy.I dunno,as I said I never messed with magick ritual outside of sigils (and a few mishaps ) before.Dunno
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Post by Xor'Nefthrahm on Aug 26, 2008 0:33:02 GMT -6
OK.. i'll start from the begining.. about 4 years ago, me and my girlfriend (now my wife) was sitting in my mothers basement watching TV.. suddenly we saw this shadowy black mass come down the wall in the corner behind the TV, and then fly acrost the floor strait at us.. I turned on the light, it was gone. It was about 2 feet tall.. maybe 1 1/2. Well 2 nights ago I started hearing this noise on the balcony, like something was scampering out there.. I got a flashlight and went out there.. nothing.. kept hearing it. The belcony is on the third floor, so it's not like whatever it is just ran off.. it sounded like something that is at LEAST 10 lbs walking around. Suddenly, my wife, who had to work early so she went to bed without me, woke up yelling what the fuck and called me into our room. She said when she was asleep she heard this course sound, kinda like Taco Bell paper towels being rubbed together. The more awake she got, the faster and loader it got.. when she awoke, to her horror, and my puzzlement, the bottom half of the bed was rocking back in forth, tossing one leg up a bit, then the other, kind of like if something small was standing and strattleing her legs, and rocking back and forth. When she awoke and saw this, she pulled her legs up, and the bottom of the bed kept moving, but then slowed down and stopped as "I" approached the room. She got up and was telling the story to me in the kitchen, and suddenly she said it felt like something touched her feet.. right after that I felt a small cold draft around me, and felt vibrations on the floor like I would if one of our cats were to walk by. NONE of the cats were in the room during the bed incident either.. they were out in the living room fighting a toy mouse. But before this, like a week after moving in, we started seeing a shadowy figure moving around the apartment, sometime out of the corner of our eyes it even looked kinda like a animal, maybe catlike.. we dont feel threatened, sense no malevolence.. it's just weird.. Neither of us do drugs, I havent since 14 (26 now) my wife NEVER did any.. I have a few ideas from some websites, as well as the TAPS (Ghosthunters) home page, which talks about various spirit types, but WTF is this thing? The weird thing is I tend to see a black cat shrouded in shadows or shadowy blurs (really creepy) out of the corner of my eyes as well.Its weird because when I read this ,it took me back. I don't deal with occult or lhp stuff anymore but I still see it.Not as frequently as before.Things never touch or disrupted anything in my home though.I doubt its possible 2 people share the same internal demons.I think whatever it is may be external. Its a leap out of the mundane for me to admit it may be something with its own will seperate from your mind but Im considering the possibility there are things and beings we don't know about out there that aren't a part of a mage's subconscious.I just pretty much ignore these things when they appear.They seem to pass right through about their own business.Focus on them and things get nasty,especially before nap-time. I havent practiced magick as long as most folk here but I seen strange things long as ZI could remember that weren't hallucinations.My advice is don't think about it and tell your wife to do the same before you go to bed. On the bright side be glad you didn't see the 6-7 ft shadowy things.I theorize they ride a person's consciousness.I was young at the time but after the three of them appeared 2 weeks worth of conscious awareness of everyday life vanished leaving me to fill in the massive gap by asking people wth i did for two weeks. Its possible your rituals jarred them or put them in some sort of frenzy.I dunno,as I said I never messed with magick ritual outside of sigils (and a few mishaps ) before.Dunno It has appeared as a small catlike creature before as well.. So far I havent felt that malevolent energy that you do when a pissed entity is around.. it just has a habit of appearing at inopportune times.. I just wonder if there is any use in such a creature, or should I just devour it (how I banish lesser entities) and get it overwith?
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Post by Xor'Nefthrahm on Aug 26, 2008 0:34:34 GMT -6
Most spirits that speak through Ouija boards are not particuarily smart enjoy causing trouble and can't spell for shit. We assumed it was Scottish Qyol (kale) Ayr. But you had just bit BIG chunk out of it and it wasn't the least Bit Happy! Say Qyol ayr quickly. KILLER. the rest is either gibberish like you said or some attempt at a threat With almost a Scottish Accent! Hehe.. no but seriously, you have a point.. I should destroy the little shit if it is threatening me..
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Post by jmsn on Aug 26, 2008 2:45:05 GMT -6
I say just let it be if it doesn't bother you.If you get aggressive, I'm not saying you couldn't destroy it either, but they may get aggressive when significance is attached to them.Doing a whole rite against it or attacking it in some way my cause things to end up worse.
I have quite a few bad experiences attacking things in a gun ho mindset (attempts at astral ) attacks only to have pain erupt all over my body.When something has enough power to make breathing difficult and is partially visible...yeah.Of course that was something else entirely.
I'd consider the black blurs that are small harmless.Like watchers or scouters if you will.Its the big one you gotta worry about.I've spoken to and known other who encounter "shadow men" as well which appeared behind the smaller ones.Luckily I was losing interest in occultism at the time (as I am no magician or sorcerer with big aims) so the appearances became less frequent.But if you gotta do whatcha gotta do be thorough.
Sometimes I think theres a reality beneath out own where things reside and do whatever.Sometime I think we see them passing through walls and stuff but in their reality,we or the walls don't even exist.I say this because there have been other things I've seen do this.Its kinda like if in some other reality there was a subway where your room is but I digress.
It makes me curious though.Lets say what I mentioned above did apply in some cases.Would it be possible to effect them through banishings or sorcery?Is it possible there may be some where they are that are perceptive as we are?If so would their magick or banishings effect us?Whos to say this doesnt happen and we dont know we're being effected by something in another reality?It sounds crazy but this situation got me thinking.I sound loony don't i?
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Post by Xor'Nefthrahm on Aug 26, 2008 10:56:04 GMT -6
I say just let it be if it doesn't bother you.If you get aggressive, I'm not saying you couldn't destroy it either, but they may get aggressive when significance is attached to them.Doing a whole rite against it or attacking it in some way my cause things to end up worse. I have quite a few bad experiences attacking things in a gun ho mindset (attempts at astral ) attacks only to have pain erupt all over my body.When something has enough power to make breathing difficult and is partially visible...yeah.Of course that was something else entirely. I'd consider the black blurs that are small harmless.Like watchers or scouters if you will.Its the big one you gotta worry about.I've spoken to and known other who encounter "shadow men" as well which appeared behind the smaller ones.Luckily I was losing interest in occultism at the time (as I am no magician or sorcerer with big aims) so the appearances became less frequent.But if you gotta do whatcha gotta do be thorough. Sometimes I think theres a reality beneath out own where things reside and do whatever.Sometime I think we see them passing through walls and stuff but in their reality,we or the walls don't even exist.I say this because there have been other things I've seen do this.Its kinda like if in some other reality there was a subway where your room is but I digress. It makes me curious though.Lets say what I mentioned above did apply in some cases.Would it be possible to effect them through banishings or sorcery?Is it possible there may be some where they are that are perceptive as we are?If so would their magick or banishings effect us?Whos to say this doesnt happen and we dont know we're being effected by something in another reality?It sounds crazy but this situation got me thinking.I sound loony don't i? Yeah I seen the big ones before.. only thrice 1 on 1 though.. 2 times it was a night terror type thing.. once my fear turned to anger, I could move again and started screaming at the thing and it turned into a brownish mist and took off. The other time was this female entity that pops in about once a year.. speaks some strange language, but in my head I hear stuff like "don't be afraid, I dont mean any harm, etc." The situation effected my wife too.. when the bed was moving she thought it might be a night terror (disimbodied psyvamp?) and kept telling herself not to show fear.. Yeah.. I shouldnt be TOO egotistical to think that IT is the only intruder, as I probably invade its area time to time too. To it, "i" could be one of those giant black shadows! Yes, it sounds a bit looney, but we are all a bit mad here, so it makes sense to someone like me! Maybe it has to do with that big Necronomicon Gate/gate of Yog-Sothoth hanging on my wall?
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Post by jmsn on Aug 26, 2008 17:37:28 GMT -6
I dunno if it has to do with that.I know during my encounters ,most times I never even had anything hanging up there.I used to think of them as watchers.But not anymore.
Is it possible there are some regions of the earth where the boundaries between our reality and theirs cross?It kinda like the idea of leylines but different.It can't be entirely impossible,the earth is a giant orb in space surrounded by a magnetic field.Who's to say by very nature of this planet things aren't unstable in certain areas?
I wonder if there are things that can influence this merging of realities or if there are things out there who can move freely into ours from their own.Its sounds like something from a horror novel but it can be true right?Maybe the gate may have something to do with it.Although personally I'd advise against hanging such things around casually.It could have alot to do with it!
I guess as some of us are curious of their regions,the same can be said of them right?
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Post by Xor'Nefthrahm on Aug 26, 2008 17:47:50 GMT -6
Of course.. it would be naive to think otherwise! There could be literally thousands of beings in one room, all in different dimensions. I'm sure there are leylines.. probly crosses over near my room. But then again maybe my wife's hypothesis is correct, "I" am haunted, not our dwellings!
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Post by martin on Aug 29, 2008 15:28:52 GMT -6
You know it bugged you and you hurt it, if its no longer causing you grief leave it alone. Why give it any importance (power). If it isnt getting fed it'll go away
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Post by Xor'Nefthrahm on Aug 29, 2008 22:03:35 GMT -6
You know it bugged you and you hurt it, if its no longer causing you grief leave it alone. Why give it any importance (power). If it isnt getting fed it'll go away Ya i think it was some random astral critter of low intelligence
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