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Post by luxcthonis on Jan 21, 2008 19:41:16 GMT -6
Okay. I started this thread because I am totally in opposition to the Source of Everything, and I believe in justice. Justice would not allow a thing such as the Source to continue in existence, feeding off of the suffering of others. in the most basic way i can possibly say it: The Source must die; it must be killed. The fact that it is aware of its coming demise is no cause for it to not happen. The Source is aware of all its food, and their doings. My question is this: How do we come against it? It will be much easier in the non-physical realms, but here we can prepare, plot and plan. There must be something we can work on here, however small, we can build it up: a way to bring the death of the Source, to set Infinity free....and guess what else will be free? *or WHO else rather..* What are your thoughts on this? It simply sickens me that the Source feeds off the suffering of beautiful creatures, innocent creatures, animals and the like.... It is disgusting, and should be dealt with. As a Cultist, I feel it is my duty to oppose this Source with all of my strength, and also to seek its death and destruction (and don't forget the chaos! ). Who will enlist?
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Post by iconoclasm on Jan 21, 2008 19:59:29 GMT -6
And from one came many.And the one who found joy in diferentiation , self and opposition to following the source was Satan.Rather than become one with that from which we came,let us celebrate ourselves as gods.If we fall from favor so be it.Better to rule in hell than serve in heaven.
Hail Lucifer,Hail Satan
Shall we show reverence by choosing our own paths and celebrating that we are separated from the wretched source and following none other than our own wills.
Sounds poetic enough.Now how much if any do I actually believe.There is no source.If time is an ilusion,then there could never be a source because there was never was a beginning and there never was an end.In fact you can say linear human thought created the source and fed the source,just as we created the opposition to it.That does not say it is not real.But it does imply only one thing,it implies we humans are to blame for this mess and we need to clean it up
The way we structured our gods,societies,etc...We are the Outer Gods damnit.I say,I leave you humans to your own dung pile,I have my own to clean up LOL. I never created the source or fed it substance so I have no need to soil my hands on the almighty god of worms.He is theirs to deal with.I will however sit back here amused and watch like an owl LOL.
I am split in half as you can see LOL .I seek only my own power, and the isolation of my will from everything else.I am already free because I recognize the source of enslavement -the beliefs of man
-The manifestation of nihilism
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Post by ratmage on Jan 21, 2008 22:16:08 GMT -6
I say we over throw it and vote cthulhu in as the new Source. how do we do it ! a Mass gnosis attack on it .........many people at the same time . with the source confused from the attack . A block or bind shall be placed on it . So we can feed on it ,but it cant feed back. how to keep it as a valid form of nourishment . charge its new food source to beast of food . my theory let the pig devour its self . the energy will still be feed ,but wont feed on us. we can feed on it.
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Post by I AM the Way on Jan 21, 2008 23:57:15 GMT -6
an interesting idea, but what are the practical applications? what is a "mass gnosis attack" in your view?
VS
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Post by luxcthonis on Jan 22, 2008 0:20:52 GMT -6
Icon: well, I believe in the Source, not really as a result of the teaching of the CoC (although that had a part in it), but more through an understanding of my own recent situations. It became increasingly apparent that the only reasons for certain things happening in my life were in order to make me suffer...and big time. unfortunately, though i realized I HAD TO cease from suffering, the realization itself was not enough, and I could not at that time act against it fully (partly because I was a willing slave to my apathy...you're right Icon, apathy feels wonderful, kind of. It is a horrible feeling that traps you, but one that is difficult to escape because it also feels...good? right? hard to describe). Anyhow, the Source became apparent, and I than made it my life's mission to do all I could in order to find out how I could kill it (of course it is possible, i have felt its fear. It gets scared and turns up the suffering). The thing is, whatever is learned here, whatever we do here in the physical, must at ALL COSTS be carried over into the non-physical. We need players to act on both sides. I say "need" but I can kill the Source on my own. i know I can. Any of us can. But, our strength lies in our unified attack, and the more who work towards this, the quicker it will be accomplished. I say "quick" as if Time did in fact exist. But you see, though Time does not exist, that does not mean that things such as beginnings or ends do not take place. There is just no real record of it as we have deluded ourselves into thinking (aside from the Aetheric Archives that is).
Ratmage: Thanks for your willingness to enlist! This is nothing less than the beginning of a Second Celestial War. And I like that idea of feeding off of it, instead of letting it feed on us. That is a good theory. It still needs some practical aspects as far as application are concerned, such as VS suggested, but this is off to a good start indeed. Hey, even baby steps can take you forward, right?
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Post by iconoclasm on Jan 22, 2008 1:19:55 GMT -6
Perhaps you are right.I can imagine such a thing will cause a massive shift in angelic and demonic hierachies. I was told the last shift of the demonic hierachies began at the start of the beginnings of slavery.I feel 2012 can be another shift if im not wrong. It is said as so below than above.What you do here would effect that state of higher vibrations and energy,that which few are in tune with.Also what occurs up there will effect what occurs down here.However we must realize time is nonlinear on that plane. What we effect up there can change what already is etched in stone or is history for us.Similarly it may change the future as well.We simply wont be able to comprehend what effect the now there has on our past...This is beginning to fascinate me alot.I do recall reading something in the book of enochian magic by Donald Tyson that stated something about them being distorted do to the fact they dont have linear time (angels that is) so info is delivered in fragments at various times and cant be pieced together on a linear basis. Its a jumble of stuff left for the wise minds to decode. Though I care little for the powersource,I am interested on the partaking of this proposed project simply for the fact it will amuse me.
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Post by ratmage on Jan 22, 2008 9:32:20 GMT -6
if it is the desire of our ego to imprison ,or destroy the source then this can be done of corse we may want to rid the positive balance
The Mass of Choronzon by Peter J. Carroll
An Invocation of the personal ego or false Holy Guardian Angel, for the purpose of casting one's entire will as an Enchantment upon reality.
Such an operation would normally qualify as an extreme act of black magic, were it not prefaced by an initial invocation of the formless Kia or real Holy Guardian Angle.
The essential purpose of the conjuration as a whole is to increase the dominion of one's ego over the world in the hope of bringing the formless life force of the Kia more fully into play. The ritual is traditionally performed with a wand to exemplify will, although other instruments can be used, or improvisation made with the clenched fist if necessary.
The invocations are in the Enochian language and represent in part, adaptions of the calls of the first and tenth Enochian Aethers, and consist of eleven and thirty three words each.
Unlike the Mass of Chaos B (Baphomet Conjuration), this ritual cannot be aimed to enchant for any specific desire and has the property of tending to phenomenise the desires of the ego at random.
Herein lies its use and its danger. You may only realise what it was you wanted when it arrives.
The ritual must therefore be considered as partly an act of Divination. Following the statement of intent, the Kia is first invoked by an incantation, a mantra and a brief period of complete mental silence. It would be both blasphemous and catastrophic to attempt to conceptualise Kia as other than a formless pregnant void.
The god/daemon form of Choronzon is manifested by a visulisation of one's self in the form of one's grossly hypertrophied ego whilst the incantation is given. The ritual is concluded with three simultaneous acts. A lightning flash in the form of the solar sigil or sowulo victory rune is visualised flashing down from one's head to the ground, a loud martial arts Kia is shouted and the wand is struck against the ground.
Laughter banishing then follows.
Mass of Choronzon
1. Statement of Intent: ~ LET MY TOTAL WILL BE DONE! ~
2. The Eight Rayed Star of Chaos is traced upoon the ground with the wand.
3. The Invocation to Kia is delivered, holding the wand aloft, with both hands, directly above the head. Incantation:
ZIRDO IADNAMAD ELILA I am the undefiled knowledge of the 1st aether
MICALZODO SAANIR MADRIAAX mighty in the parts of the heavens
FINIS BALZIZIRAS IADA executing the judgement of the highest
IO KIA !
4. "I" mantra for one complete exhalation. In PTAH posture (feet together, wand held with both hand upright against body).
5. Mental silence for a few moments. In PTAH posture.
6. Choronzon Invocation: wand held crosswise above the head.
Incantation:
ANETAB OTHIL LUDSI CAOSAGI in government I have set my feet in the earth
ZIRDO LONSMI DEPEDE ZARZAX I am the power 333 of the 10th aether
SOBA DOOAIN MAD ZILODARPE whose name amongst you is the god of conquest
TOOAT GMICALZOMA LARSAD TOLGLO furnishing a power of to dispose of all things understanding
YRPOIL LATOK OVCHO ASYMP division, one thing let it confound with another
UNCHI OMORS ZODACARE GOHUS confound understanding move! I say with darkness
OADRIAX OROCHA DODPAL CAOSAGI the lower beneath let them vex upon the earth heavens
ABRAMAG NETAAIB CAOSAGI IO CHORONZON ! I prepare for the of the earth government
7. Visualise Lightning Flash, Shout "Kia!" and Strike Wand to Ground.
8. Banish with Laughter.
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Post by ratmage on Jan 22, 2008 9:49:01 GMT -6
this is for comparison on the rite above. this one may be more appropriate. you have more control on the manifestation. it may be more effective if we come up with a common sigil for the attack to be charged.
THE MASS OF CHAOS (B)
Invocation of Baphomet
This rite may be performed as a sacrament of invocation to raise a particular
manifestation of energy for inspiration, divination or communion with
particular domains of consciousness. It may be performed as an act of
enchantment in which spells are projected to modify physical reality. It may
also be performed to consecrate magical instruments, or to evoke entities for
later use.
The rite consists of six parts:
1. Preparation:
The preparation will include the making ready of the site, the erection of circles
and triangles, the placing of instruments and weapons, and the administration
of any chemical or botanical elixirs that may be employed to heighten gnosis.
Banishing rituals, meditation, circle dances, and other forms of preparatory
gnosis may be used to prepare the participants.
2. Statement of Intent:
The statement of intent must be formulated as simply, forcefully, and precisely
as possible. Holding aloft any material basis that is to be used in the rite, the
officiating priest/priestess intones the words, "It is our will_______________",
adding whatever the aim of the rite is to be. The material basis may be some
foodstuff for subsequent consecration and consumption. It may be a sigil with
which to cast an enchantment or a talisman, amulet, or fetish for consecration.
In the event that the basis is to be a sexual elixir, then the priest or priestess
stands empty-handed for the sacrifice is to be of their own bodies.
3. Invocation of Chaos:
The Invocation of Chaos is effected by a barbarous incantation delivered in
conjunction with gnostic methods of the operator's choice. The supreme
animadversion to Chaos is given below, together with a translation which is as
accurate as possible within the primitive logic structure of the English
language. Drawing the Star of Chaos in the air above the circle and assisted by
the visualisations of the same by the other participants, the priest/priestess
begins:
OL - SONUF - VAROSAGAI - GOHU
I - Reign - Over You - Saith
VOUINA - VABZIR - DE - TEHOM - QUADMONAH
The Dragon - Eagle - of - the Primal Chaos
ZIR - ILE - IAIDA - DAYES PRAF - ELILA
I Am - the First - the Highest - That Live In - the First Aether
ZIRDO - KIAFI - CAOSAGO - MOSPELEH - TELOCH
I Am - the Terror - of the Earth - the Horns - of Death
PANPIRA - MALPIRGAY - CAOSAGI
Pouring Down - the Fires of Life - On the Earth
ZAZAS ZAZAS NASATANATA ZAZAS
This last line cannot be translated
The eight-rayed Star of Chaos radiant is visualised above the circle throughout,
and sacrifices of incenses, blood, or sexual elixirs may be made.
4. Invocation of Baphomet:
The priest or priestess who is to assume the manifestation of Baphomet attires
and visualizes himself in the traditional god-form of the power source.
Baphomet, as the representation of the terrestrial life-current, appears as a
horned theriomorphic deity of the androgynous, winged, reptilian, mammalian,
and human aspect. The priest/priestess arouses within himself a resurgence of
the Chi, or Kundalini, or Sacred Firesnake, as it is variously known. Other
participants may assist by delivering such incantations as the incomparable
"Hymn to Pan", by projecting a visualization of the averse pentagram into the
priest/priestess, and if need be, by administering the Osculum Infame. (This socalled
obscene kiss to the devil's hindquarters has been much misunderstood.
All that is required is that one breathes onto the peritoneum, the space between
the genitals and the anus - inside of which the kundalini awaits to be aroused.)
The priest/priestess then completes the invocation with the Aeonic Litany:
IN THE FIRST AEON, I WAS THE GREAT SPIRIT
IN THE SECOND AEON, MEN KNEW ME AS THE HORNED GOD,
PANGENITOR PANPHAGE
IN THE THIRD AEON, I WAS THE DARK ONE THE DEVIL
IN THE FOURTH AEON, MEN KNOW ME NOT, FOR I AM THE HIDDEN
ONE
IN THIS NEW AEON, I APPEAR BEFORE YOU AS BAPHOMET
THE GOD BEFORE ALL GODS WHO SHALL ENDURE TO THE END
OF THE EARTH
The priest/priestess as Baphomet now takes any material basis being used as a
focus for the rite and consecrates it to the purpose of the ritual by whatever
means the god wills in him, perhaps by speech, by gesture, or by some
unexpected means.
5. The Oath:
The oath marks the culmination of the rite. Holding the material basis aloft, the
priest/priestess and all participants affirm
THIS IS MY WILL
If the basis be a sacrament, it is then consumed. If it is a sigil, it is destroyed or
hidden, while a consecrated object is covered and concealed for later use.
6. The Closing:
The closing may necessitate an exorcism of the priest/priestess if the trance or
possession is deep. Any Baphomet symbols and paraphernalia are removed,
and an upright pentagram is drawn over the priest/priestess. A full facial
lustration with cold water is administered, and he is called forth by his ordinary
name until he responds.
A final banishing closes this rite.
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Post by yamal on Jan 22, 2008 11:07:59 GMT -6
no ideas at the time will look up more but Iam in
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Post by ratmage on Jan 22, 2008 11:26:25 GMT -6
here is an idea . we can isolate the destructive part of the source's ego.........who is that the Christian Jewish god. how this works . we must break into his Paradise . using astral projection and hiding in the form of angels . (not hard to do Lucifer has done it alot in the bible.) keep in mind this will happen as a mass ground to air magic attack is going on. while he is distracted the people on the inside of his Paradise will charge him to a sigil and make him ours .(altering his form and what ever else we chose to humiliate him) then the source will be left to feed only on its worshipers while we feed on it.
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Post by iconoclasm on Jan 22, 2008 12:36:22 GMT -6
I am totally for thae astral thing without a doubt dude.Forgive me but as I stated before the only ritual tools I can have in a purely devout christian household is the imagination and silence.(what a drag,one adapts relatively fast) But of the astral world I have seen a thing or two.Dont take me for sounding bizarre,lost and a mental case or a faker but such a matter is good subject for me ask a spiritual guide for advice (a personal one springs to mind,it may be difficult but hey,I am determined).
I was warned against choronzon in the past by members of a now defunct chaos magic forum.What type of risks are involved?Anything that doesnt afflict my mad mind already now?LOL
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Post by luxcthonis on Jan 22, 2008 13:02:25 GMT -6
Before I read the rest of this thread, I feel I should say this: You must all rethink the Gods, and forget everything you thought you knew, or were taught about them, specifically the so-called "Christian God." In the past, this concept was worked against because of the oppression caused by its apparent minions in its name. However, the fact of the matter is.... YHWH is an Ancient One. This will become apparent to you all in time. Remember how the Satanic Bible said something to the effect of all religious bibles being written by Satan and not "God?" Direct quote: "If one is to believe this theological accusation that the Devil represents falsehood, then it surely must be concurred that it was HE, NOT GOD, THAT ESTABLISHED ALL SPIRITUAL RELIGIONS AND WHO WROTE ALL OF THE HOLY BIBLES!" (introduction to the Book of Lucifer). Very interesting eh? So who then is this Christian God? Thats right..... *Tyler Durden smiles..* haha! Back soon, when I read the rest of this thread, and my thanks to all of you who have expressed interest in this war. The Source is tightening Its grip, and incresing the amount of suffering upon my shoulders, but as long as I recognize where it comes from, it cannot get to me. Besides, if I die, the war just begins quicker (hehe...) *adopts jack black voice* "WOO-HOO, I win!!" LOL! ~Love and Death~ [Edit: Okay, having glanced at the material, I can say that I must definitely check it out in depth, something which cannot be done at the moment, for inabilty to let myself focus. But reading it brought an idea to mind: we should split up into units like a proper army, all with diverse tactics, and such. This, I believe, will be an effective tool for us to use. For example, those with the understanding of such magical terms and ideas must no doubt use them to the benefit of the Cult, especially as it concerns our purposes here. My own approach is rather abstract at this time, and I don't have a background in Chaos Magic....actually, you could say that my background is purely...Xian, at least as far as practical "magical" ability is concerned. All of these things may be used to our benefit, so don't hold back. P.S. Ratmage, i love that idea of infiltrating Paradise. Good one. if you are familiar with your Scriptures, then you all may recall that Satan often comes before the council of God. *shhh, I won't tell if you won't* hee hee ~Hx]
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Post by ratmage on Jan 22, 2008 14:50:25 GMT -6
now that we have a sort of idea of what we are doing we must find a sigil to charge ,and a frail harmless form to warp the source into for our use .
so any Ideas for sigils and forms feel free to post:
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Post by luxcthonis on Jan 22, 2008 16:10:43 GMT -6
The sigil that comes most readily to mind is the one engraved upon the Third-Eye of every true Cultist. I speak of none other than Korth'salas our Lord. In this sign shall we conquer. What do you think? For some reason, this sigil is burned into my mind, and I incorporate it into everything, my prayers, my writings, my personal mythology; I even trace it in energy at church ;D.
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Post by ratmage on Jan 22, 2008 17:19:27 GMT -6
sounds good to me. now the other problem is the source's form. now it is formless like a giant microbe . if we try to imprison it now it will seep through . if we give the source a form we can contain it and feed on it . now it is an amoeba in the ocean ,but soon it will be like a pig in a pen .
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Post by luxcthonis on Jan 22, 2008 18:11:33 GMT -6
I wonder..... What are the possibilities that we can make the form of the Source into someone who is now living here on earth? Draw down the power of the Source into the perfect person...... What do you think? Just a thought. Good thinking Ratmage, keep it up. ~L&D~
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Post by ratmage on Jan 22, 2008 18:16:33 GMT -6
yes of corse if we put the source into a cycle of reincarnation so it feels what the average life form feels it may be more kindly . but I think we should start it off at the lowest form of life so it reincarnates slowly up to the point a human. this will start it as prey so it knows what it makes us(life) feel
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Post by luxcthonis on Jan 22, 2008 19:37:00 GMT -6
Great plan! this is one we should use for certain! Lets solidify it as much as possible. Lets also brainstorm, a good way is to come up with a big list of options, no matter how fucked up they might sound. Mine will be fothcumming, as soon as I think of something.
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Post by ratmage on Jan 22, 2008 20:22:27 GMT -6
lets make it a pig can any one say astral pig roast
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Post by luxcthonis on Jan 22, 2008 22:07:16 GMT -6
Hmmmm......i would be all for it, but pigs are sacred to me (explanation: I consider some animals sacred to me, much in the same way that Hindu's revere cows. Three animals I consider to be sacred representations or manifestations of certain deities, and those can be eaten to show devotion, and to partake of their power. These are: Pig/Swine (Maozim), Goat (Salabast), and Snake (Satan). In addition to this, I find the whole Cephalopod species to be sacred, and are TOO SACRED to eat. I wouldn't want to invite the wrath of Cthonis, would I? haha!) Anyway, thats just me. I would opt for, say...hmmmm....something....I wonder if we could put it into an entire species....like cockroaches or something. Let it work up to human from there. ?? *I'm all question marks* In the end, do as thou wilt, I just didn't want to disrespect the noble swine, hehe... However it could still be valid.
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Post by Yahn'ikthorn on Jan 23, 2008 2:28:52 GMT -6
I wonder... I've been thinking of something like thousands of cultists performing the same ritual simultaneously all around the world. Takes time, but possible. This is a nice thread!
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Post by luxcthonis on Jan 23, 2008 3:01:38 GMT -6
Thanx Takuan. (hello btw, its been a while) too bad I'm just heading out. Yes a worldwide ritual would be awesome and a subsequent worldwide riot would also be nice Good night. (Enjoying the blizzard?) hee hee
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Post by Yahn'ikthorn on Jan 23, 2008 4:09:16 GMT -6
You call this gentle, lukewarm snowfall a blizzard?
Whatever you meant, I like blizzards. As long as I don't have to work outside during them.
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Post by I AM the Way on Jan 23, 2008 11:45:23 GMT -6
i agree that Kort'thsalis is the most powerful sigil for this kind of Source-destroying endeavor.
also, i was wondering if anyone distinguished the Source from the lesser gods. according to the Cult's "official" paradigm, the Source gave birth to the lesser gods as well as the Great Old Ones. the Source includes everything and nothing, takes no sides, and favors no agenda. but it is the lesser gods that control our universe and keep us enslaved and as their food.
so it seems that what you want to do is to destroy the lesser gods. am i right?
furthermore, black magic is all well and good (no pun intended); however, it is primarily used for nudging reality towards the magician's desire. if we really want to attack, destroy, or defeat the lesser gods, then we need "real world" action. that is what i meant by practical applications.
1. self observation. remember yourself in order to see that you are sleeping.
2. do not allow yourself suffering, that is an indulgence that you cannot afford. it feeds the universe and forces us into submission.
3. go after what you want. define your goals and aggressively drive towards your dreams.
this is what is necessary. simple as that, although, don't be fooled by its simplicity... it is a difficult path to consistently follow. magic is wonderful and can help the mage achieve many things. but do not let magic take the place of The Work which is to truly see the game and Awaken. sorcery alone is a poor substitute for "real world" daily effort.
meditate upon this and let me know your thoughts...
Venger As'Nas Satanis Cult of Cthulhu High Priest[/b][/color]
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Post by luxcthonis on Jan 23, 2008 15:44:11 GMT -6
Yes, thanks for that clarification VS. True, I had forgotten that the Lesser Gods appealed to the Source, and thus they are in control now...hmmm....as if they have been granted acces to the "interface mainframe" of the Source (viewing it as if it were a computer, and "reality" as programs). Okay, time for revision of theory in light of this re-found info. Revision is always fun!! Thanks for reminding us HP, thats what you're here for. ~L&D~
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Post by ratmage on Jan 23, 2008 22:38:10 GMT -6
Hmmmm......i would be all for it, but pigs are sacred to me (explanation: I consider some animals sacred to me, much in the same way that Hindu's revere cows. Three animals I consider to be sacred representations or manifestations of certain deities, and those can be eaten to show devotion, and to partake of their power. These are: Pig/Swine (Maozim), Goat (Salabast), and Snake (Satan). In addition to this, I find the whole Cephalopod species to be sacred, and are TOO SACRED to eat. I wouldn't want to invite the wrath of Cthonis, would I? haha!) Anyway, thats just me. I would opt for, say...hmmmm....something....I wonder if we could put it into an entire species....like cockroaches or something. Let it work up to human from there. ?? *I'm all question marks* In the end, do as thou wilt, I just didn't want to disrespect the noble swine, hehe... However it could still be valid. I use a few pig deities (chu pa- chi,or was it chei,or chie ) I do eat it in a way of honoring its power /taking in it's power . no disrespect to the entity "NO offence there chu"
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Post by luxcthonis on Jan 24, 2008 23:22:17 GMT -6
I have been taking into account Vengers words, and I think perhaps we should seek and destroy each and every Lesser God that exists. The Source will feed off of their suffering. Actually, when one considers the account given in the Cult bible, the Ancient Ones actually slaughtered these gods continually....I wonder if this was done to feed the Source from whence they themselves came...?
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Post by ratmage on Jan 25, 2008 16:48:41 GMT -6
it would work ,and because of the fact that the lesser gods will just reincarnate over and over again we could just keep killing them ,or we can imprison the lesser gods and keep them in a state of constant suffering.
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Post by ratmage on Jan 25, 2008 17:26:08 GMT -6
I am totally for thae astral thing without a doubt dude.Forgive me but as I stated before the only ritual tools I can have in a purely devout christian household is the imagination and silence.(what a drag,one adapts relatively fast) But of the astral world I have seen a thing or two.Dont take me for sounding bizarre,lost and a mental case or a faker but such a matter is good subject for me ask a spiritual guide for advice (a personal one springs to mind,it may be difficult but hey,I am determined). I was warned against choronzon in the past by members of a now defunct chaos magic forum.What type of risks are involved?Anything that doesnt afflict my mad mind already now?LOL funny you should say . that demon is one of confusion and deceit . after witch it will possess the weaker minded mage ,but leave a strong minded mage with an important life lesson .
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Post by iconoclasm on Jan 25, 2008 18:30:18 GMT -6
Thanks for the mention,I have heard serious practitioners use phrases such as "getting one's head stomped in " figuratively.Then again ,Carroll's interpretation was that Choronzon is accepting anything as the absolute truth which to some degree I am inclined to agree with.
Nonetheless,I feel a need for certain terms to be clarified.Source is very broad and can cover a wide array of things.The source can simply refer to the amount of energy in a system (given there are multitudes,it would be all energy and info in every system),such would be hard to wrap one's mind around ,let alone conquer.There are supposedly 12 dimensions ,we can only comprehend three...good luck
The source can cover the true self.That which is the source of all incarnartions of the self,and that which eagerly experiences any emotional suffering as that which is you is but 1 arm on this spider (catch my drift?).Fighting one's self for the most part we have to assume will not yield anything.
The source can also cover 1 or a few unspecified gods people have willed and accepted into existence.Hence the outer gods.They can also be seen as primal impulses that are not under an individuals conscious control.Be it rage,neurosis, or other bizarre behaviors.For the most part they simply feed and are devoid of feeling care or rational thought.Though there is common disdain for the Christian god ,I doubt it would be considered an Outer god.The christian god is more of a sneaky oppurtunist preying on the willfully ignorant and submissiveness.However,blind submission in itself can be considered an outer god.
Know thyself I suppose.Thats the first step before you can step onto any battlefield. This perhaps is one of my more productive days.
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