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Post by iconoclasm on Dec 26, 2007 10:32:38 GMT -6
I haven't started banishing until just recently again and I have to report ,not only is it a good energy booster but it ends rituals quite well.I was wondering what importance you place on banishing.There are some circles where they banish before leaving the house and others where they don't bother.
I pretty much use a banishing I came up from intuition involving Yog Sothoth towards the East (gate reminds me of intellect and air),Shub-Niggurath towards the North,Azathoth to the west (pure chaos I associate with water) and Cthulhu to the south (fire although I am beginning to believe Cthulhu may actually embody more elements than 1,Ill explain later).No doubt I use inverted pentegrams and go counter clockwise for added LHP measure ;D and in the in I call in the power of Kort,thsalis generally the end is where the 4 gods link into me visually and things get more free form from there.
I must note the strange things in the air begin to vanish and such an act leaves no room to fear anything.I must also add,I will begin doing it much more regularly from these days on.
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Post by baphomet on Dec 27, 2007 19:41:44 GMT -6
takuan, make the Poppet!
You know you want to!
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Post by Yahn'ikthorn on Dec 28, 2007 3:03:09 GMT -6
Must....resist.....temptation...........
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Post by Tehiru.Chalal on Dec 31, 2007 14:39:04 GMT -6
Resistance is futile. After all, it's not an attack so much as bringing the universe back into (your) balance. Consider yourself officially blessed as the agent of balance in this matter. I'll even write you a pardon!
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Post by leo666 on Dec 31, 2007 15:15:21 GMT -6
Very interesting adaptation of banishing ritual ! I think VS can rearrange this to officialise it as one of basic CoC banishing ritual .
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Post by I AM the Way on Dec 31, 2007 16:25:31 GMT -6
perhaps... i like the idea of cleansing ritual or even balancing ritual better than banishing though. because once we call the Dark Forces, we don't actually want them to go away altogether.
Venger As'Nas Satanis Cult of Cthulhu High Priest
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Post by ratmage on Jan 1, 2008 9:00:13 GMT -6
True that .........maby it would be best to charge the dark force into a charm or stone for later use . If it is your will then do a banishing. b2w that is a sweet banishing . I us Crowley's/The Order Of The Golden Dawn's banishing rituals .
how do you formulate your ritual . for example: Crowley/the dawn used the T.A.O formula
T representing The Kabalistic cross A representing The lesser pentagram ritual O *shrugs shoulders *
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Post by dragonlady on Jan 3, 2008 6:56:04 GMT -6
I've never banished any spirit I've summoned. I've spoke to spirits about the returning of unnatural light only out of respect. Some spirits choose to leave in the presence of artifical light sources. I simply give them the opportunity to do so if they would choose. I also do not keep a spirit if they wish not to stay. There comes a bond with the gods in allowing them to come and go as they wish. I find myself seldom really alone and it is a comfort to me. The gods stay because they choose to, not out of force. There is no need to banish what has free will to do as it wishes. Clearing the energy can be beneficial if there is negative feeling to the place of calling. I've never felt that. I have a trust in what I summon and only call on with respect. If you anger the gods by wasting their time with silly things, you may need to banish to free yourself from it's vengence. It also depends on the energy you summon with. Banishing is beneficial for the pratictioner in releasing themselves from the emotional and psychological state experianced from the in(en)voking, whichever is performed. It has no benefit to the spirit or it's state of well being. One only should seperate themself to the experiance if it is unhealthy to the mind. Most often after a working of magic the room will clear itself. Nothing becomes dormate by force only by one's will. Some could actually banish and fail, it they truly do not want it to leave. Spirits are oracle in they know the hearts and feelings of all. The best advice I could give on banishing, do so if it benifits you. Don't feel it nessessary to free what was summoned. You have no power over the gods as to what they choose to do. They will come and go as they wish, without permission.
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Post by sin on Feb 13, 2008 10:30:50 GMT -6
perhaps... i like the idea of cleansing ritual or even balancing ritual better than banishing though. because once we call the Dark Forces, we don't actually want them to go away altogether.
Venger As'Nas Satanis Cult of Cthulhu High PriestI concur. I had a group of folks that would come over and hang out often wanting to conduct ritual together. There was this one gentlemen who insisted on a banishing ritual before we began. I never allowed it. When he was finished throwing his tantrum over it, I would simply explain it to him in terms he could understand. He would often compliment me on the 'feel' of my place, how he always felt at ease and in a safe environment. I used that. Why would one want to banish such energy? If we perform ritual and get the emotional response needed; why banish that? It doesn't make any sense to me. I find that 'banishing' is found in a lot of the Golden Dawn, OTO, rituals; he did have a background in that so - there you have it. He programmed himself into believing that 'banishing' was necessary.
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Post by Timotheus Prophet of Darkness on Feb 13, 2008 14:28:04 GMT -6
I haven't banished einties in so long,I just thank think for being there listening to me and helping me and them then that they may depart when they want to with my eternal thanks. Thats a lot more respectful sounding then the "POOF BEGONE" bansihings.
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Post by Timotheus Prophet of Darkness on Feb 13, 2008 14:31:58 GMT -6
I haven't started banishing until just recently again and I have to report ,not only is it a good energy booster but it ends rituals quite well.I was wondering what importance you place on banishing.There are some circles where they banish before leaving the house and others where they don't bother. I pretty much use a banishing I came up from intuition involving Yog Sothoth towards the East (gate reminds me of intellect and air),Shub-Niggurath towards the North,Azathoth to the west (pure chaos I associate with water) and Cthulhu to the south (fire although I am beginning to believe Cthulhu may actually embody more elements than 1,Ill explain later).No doubt I use inverted pentegrams and go counter clockwise for added LHP measure ;D and in the in I call in the power of Kort,thsalis generally the end is where the 4 gods link into me visually and things get more free form from there. I must note the strange things in the air begin to vanish and such an act leaves no room to fear anything.I must also add,I will begin doing it much more regularly from these days on. Um actually H.P.Lovecraft didn't link his deities to any elements at all,that was August Deraleth(might his misspelled his last name) that started that trend I myself totally reject that trend and gowth a non elements typ approach to them.the Wiccan Konstantinos wrote the book Nocturnicon which mentions some of the Mythos deities and he removed the Cthulhu = water ,idea from it himself.
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Post by docdr on Apr 26, 2008 7:41:26 GMT -6
I hardly ever banish. And when I do it doesn't work.
I always have to tough out the demons choronzon, baphomet, cthulhu.
I would like to say that Baphomet tips the insanity scale on you a lot more than choronzon, cthulhu is the second toughest to resist.
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Post by m2alik on Apr 26, 2008 16:35:01 GMT -6
why Banish? it is a waste of time. I prefer The dark Gods Company.
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Post by Draelloathe on Apr 26, 2008 17:53:52 GMT -6
You want to banish a God, or demon because they're inanately creative. They create their own surroundings, and to an extent create in you, a world where you learn, or are limited to what you can think or do. This normally allows you to communicate with said God, or Demon even if they don't speak your tongue, but it also places frailties on you. The warlock.
So ritual, circles, and banishings, are all a way of allowing you to have a say in how these "worlds" are created.
Remember, the midieval ages when sorcerers would say in a pleasing form to the eye? It's all about how you want to stay sane, and gain from the experience. Not, be bound down by insanity, or riddles.
Besides, you really want to banish because they might find it fun to "play" with your life.
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Post by nyarlathotep2008 on May 5, 2008 8:40:25 GMT -6
You want to banish a God, or demon because they're inanately creative. They create their own surroundings, and to an extent create in you, a world where you learn, or are limited to what you can think or do. This normally allows you to communicate with said God, or Demon even if they don't speak your tongue, but it also places frailties on you. The warlock. So ritual, circles, and banishings, are all a way of allowing you to have a say in how these "worlds" are created. Remember, the midieval ages when sorcerers would say in a pleasing form to the eye? It's all about how you want to stay sane, and gain from the experience. Not, be bound down by insanity, or riddles. Besides, you really want to banish because they might find it fun to "play" with your life. I would have to say yes and no to banishing. The god in me has a lot to do with libraries, reading, teaching, and research, but I never have any time for physical self. I don't really want to banish him because we get along okay and he's helpful to me in a lot of ways. So what should I do? I think I've finally become what people fear the most....(Ah! Its a bookworm. LMAO)....
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