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Post by servantgreenflame on Apr 29, 2008 14:34:41 GMT -6
This is what got me into the Cult business. When I was 10, through dreams I had strange visions of what seemed to be an unexplainable divine monster. The image of this monster was stuck to my thoughts. Further studying years later, made me realize an unbelievable find. The beast was Nyarlathotep, the soul and messenger of the Outer Gods. Through even more studying about Gods in the same universe as Nyarlathotep, I discovered Cthulhu. I also learned about what seemed to be a universal confirmation of the theory that H.P Lovecraft was sent dreams by Cthulhu, the Outer Gods, and the Old ones which inspired him to make books about the beasts, which make people think the Gods are not real. In 1977 a strange noise was heard close to the location of where Lovecraft said R'lyeh is. The scientists who heard the noise said it vaguely sounded like "Bloop" and that if it was a living creature, it would have to have been much larger than a Blue whale. The noise was never explained. If you have had any experiences similiar, reply.
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Post by servantgreenflame on Apr 30, 2008 19:48:36 GMT -6
Well, this could be considered a "bump". But just for those who are interested in the "bloop" theory, here is a picture of where Bloop was heard, and where Lovecraft claimed R'lyeh was. I have two theories, one Cthulhu's "snoring" can be heard far from R'lyeh. Two, Lovecraft got his stories from dreams, which is another reason to believe the old ones are real, so maybe he was just a bit off on R'lyeh's location.
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Post by Shaz'rahjeem on Apr 30, 2008 20:53:00 GMT -6
Sound travels far in water.
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Post by luxcthonis on May 1, 2008 0:37:00 GMT -6
Well, this could be considered a "bump". But just for those who are interested in the "bloop" theory, here is a picture of where Bloop was heard, and where Lovecraft claimed R'lyeh was. I have two theories, one Cthulhu's "snoring" can be heard far from R'lyeh. Two, Lovecraft got his stories from dreams, which is another reason to believe the old ones are real, so maybe he was just a bit off on R'lyeh's location. Or maybe R'lyeh is just REALLLLY fucking big.
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Post by saxo on May 2, 2008 14:38:03 GMT -6
I think he traveled. He dont need 2 stay at the same place forever, no?
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Post by Shaz'rahjeem on May 5, 2008 20:31:54 GMT -6
Hes trapped in R'lyeh i don't think he travels. Perhaps R'lyeh is big, cthulhu travels around inide it, and hes loud enough that it spread out quite a distance when he speaks, croaks, screeches, bellows or whatever it is he does.
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Post by nyarlathotep2008 on May 6, 2008 10:05:30 GMT -6
Sound travels great distances underwater, but I don't think it was Cthulhu. According to the Yellow Necronomicon and the Xothic Cycle of Lin Carter, Cthulhu fathered three godlings. One of Cthulhu's three sons was imprisoned in the trench to the northeast of R'lyeh. Also in the Necronomicon, the Deep Ones are said to have a city that is south of the island with the stone-faces (Easter Island). He was imprisoned in a pit in the Muvian Province of Yhe and the other was imprisoned in the Mountain of Mu. His eldest son was greatly worshipped in Mu but he was imprisoned by the lesser gods. For more about the Xothic Cycle, see if you can find an anthology copy of the Book of Eibon. Also, in Hyperborea the Cult of Tsathoggua was greatly worshipped (a yellow and black frog. His natural servants are the Dholes which are frog-men which is similar to the myth of the Gollum). Also according to the Ripel Necronomicon which I translated into English, Nyarlathotep is supposed to be imprisoned in the Black Onyx Castle on top of the great mountain of Kadath which is supposed to be cloaked by the Aurora Borealis, the Northern Lights.
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Post by nyarlathotep2008 on May 6, 2008 20:04:49 GMT -6
The Xothic Cycle only has five stories in it that deal with the Cult of Tsathoggua and the three sons of Cthulhu. The godlings came to Earth from a planet near a green star called Xoth.
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Post by servantgreenflame on May 7, 2008 18:07:14 GMT -6
If it is not Cthulhu then I strongly believe that it is the deep ones.
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Post by Shaz'rahjeem on May 7, 2008 19:05:59 GMT -6
Prahaps there is soething we don't kow about at work?
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Post by nyarlathotep2008 on May 8, 2008 9:11:20 GMT -6
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Post by redbaron998 on May 8, 2008 18:09:50 GMT -6
Well we know (or the scientests concluded) about the Bloop is that is it organic and much larger than even a blue whale.
The only sea creature that is known to be larger is a Giant Squid (I saw a show about it on the history channel, its was almost 1/3 longer than the whale)
Isnt it astounding that we have just recently have confirmed such a creature exsistance...who knows what else is down there. The sea is definetly the final frontier on earth.
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Post by Madguten on May 8, 2008 19:36:21 GMT -6
i will just jump in quickly to say that i agree that the supposed size of R'lyeh could be enormous. After all, it was not build for humans.
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Post by nyarlathotep2008 on May 9, 2008 13:33:00 GMT -6
True. It was built for Cthulhu, Dagon, Hydra, and the Deep Ones. Based on a dream that Tauken told me he had, he had a nightmare about being in a maze and he seen Cthulhu sitting on his throne but his hands had claws on them like a crab and he was being chased by a black goat-like creature (most likely Baphomet or Shub-Niggurath). He also said that he looked out of a window and saw the ocean floor. He said that the city looked extremely futuristic. As for the Octopus, Cthulhu has an Octopus' head so they are also his children just like the Deep Ones, except the Deep Ones are similar to Oannes which is a human/fish hybrid according to Sumerian Mythology (i.e. a Fish-Man). Since an Octopus is vastly larger than a whale, it only makes sense that the Octopus is the true lords of the Oceans. Dagon and Hydra are both represented as having multiple heads or many tentacles. I guess you could say that the Octopus is their army and the Deep Ones is their followers.
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Post by redbaron998 on May 9, 2008 16:52:16 GMT -6
True. It was built for Cthulhu, Dagon, Hydra, and the Deep Ones. Based on a dream that Tauken told me he had, he had a nightmare about being in a maze and he seen Cthulhu sitting on his throne but his hands had claws on them like a crab and he was being chased by a black goat-like creature (most likely Baphomet or Shub-Niggurath). He also said that he looked out of a window and saw the ocean floor. He said that the city looked extremely futuristic. As for the Octopus, Cthulhu has an Octopus' head so they are also his children just like the Deep Ones, except the Deep Ones are similar to Oannes which is a human/fish hybrid according to Sumerian Mythology (i.e. a Fish-Man). Since an Octopus is vastly larger than a whale, it only makes sense that the Octopus is the true lords of the Oceans. Dagon and Hydra are both represented as having multiple heads or many tentacles. I guess you could say that the Octopus is their army and the Deep Ones is their followers. An interesting observation. But yes I would assume R'lyeh would be quiet large, as both Cthulhu and Dagon are quite large themselves, and indeed it is a city that is probably much larger than modern human cities.
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Post by alhazred on Jul 19, 2009 18:35:53 GMT -6
Hes trapped in R'lyeh i don't think he travels. Perhaps R'lyeh is big, cthulhu travels around inide it, and hes loud enough that it spread out quite a distance when he speaks, croaks, screeches, bellows or whatever it is he does. Considering how big Cthulhu is said to be, it would make sense that the inside of R'Lyeh is probabably large enough that you could fit all of New York City, and then some, inside of it multiple times.
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Post by sin on Jul 20, 2009 6:34:03 GMT -6
The key word in putting things into size perspective, is cyclopean - used throughout the mythos. The term comes from greek mythology, in that the mythological creature the 'Cyclops' was a giant, and had the strength to lift such heavy bolders/rocks to create this type of architecture. Hence, cyclopean masory. R'lyeh, is a city for giants. On what scale? I'd imagine that one creature would be as large as several U.S. cities, so they'd obviously need an enormous city. In my opinion, the city is as large as there is earth on the ocean floor. The earth becomes it's city, deep in the oceans. A sphere in space, with the water to house them. There are key words used as euphemisms (double-speak), throughout the mythos that help with conceptualizing these things. I know, it helped me a lot when I was giving the whole thing a deeper examination. In example, Miskatonic University: Miskatonic = Chthonic A play on words, gods of the underworld. The term itself, meaning 'under the earth. Greek in origin (chthonios). What then does Miskatonic University represent? Far more than just a university where 'strange things' happen in the various stories. The School itself is named after the Miskatonic River, which flows through Arkham. I watched the film, 'The Thing on the Doorstep' based on Lovecraft's 1937 story. The movie renditions offer translations, and ideas by the producers/directors of these stories. While there's a lot of 'strange' occurrences at the university itself, attributed to it's large occult library, the only student I can recall ever having been mentioned attending the school; was the main character of this story. Asenath Waite, a female student - which as the story unravels, you learn - isn't a student at all, but a vessel for the Old Ones - a psychic connection. A 'body snatcher' scenario, in that she can use human bodies, as a way to exist on this plane. As it gains strength, it can allow the gods to enter. Miskatonic, represents to me - another gateway from the dimension of the Old Ones, to our plane of existence. It's also one of the few places in the world, which holds a copy of the Necronomicon. So a simple play on words, becomes a multi-dimensional idea.
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