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Post by m2alik on Apr 16, 2008 13:00:18 GMT -6
After taking Vengers Advice and setting a time to be for self remebering and to acquire shocks is not easy. The shocks are the hardest to do. By self rembering I remind myself of the aim. Which is to not identify for a hour. Good or bad. it isn't easy. My problem is the thinking of saying something but not actually saying it. To be more clear is thinking negative on somebody or people and then trying not to think negative. It willl take alot of WORK.
But as of progress I have no problem of not expecting anything from anything in life. I have that down patt. i am not hopelesss or depressed. It is realizing the facts of life. I am not caught so much in imagination in that reguard. I try to remind myself their is somethings nothing can buy. You must pay for your freedom through a different perspective. Yes I do have varied interests and have other obligations but for that hour is for The Work on MYself. I hope this is clear for those on the fourth way path.
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Post by m2alik on Apr 20, 2008 12:52:50 GMT -6
As of progress? I tried to give a person a lesson of his own justififying. But it instead caused me problems. yes it was a bible thumper. Yes this guy unconsciuosly more ways than one thinks he can walk on water. The worst type to try to reason with. Yes this all relates to Fourth Way not christianity. Their is a difference.
now to the point I tried to "enlighten" this worm but it fell on deaf ears. The whole thing was not worth in that sense. Day to Day B.S. if you know what I mean. But as to Fourth Way I see why people are asleep and think why they can justify by quoting anything. The Deeper view is this that people don't know anything unless they actually stop justifying and actually LIVE what they preach.As to why I look at it more as a lesson is that i tried. yes I did get upset but not to the point where I couldn't still be objective and use to my own Self Awareness and see why The Fourth Way is right in that reguard.
What sets me apart I am not justifying.
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Post by m2alik on Apr 23, 2008 10:44:59 GMT -6
Intellectual Center in the work gets me into trouble. As of last post. Thinking and reasoning can get you into trouble. On the plus side you can be objective far more. I have to keep my mouth shut now. As of why I have to keep my mouth shut is too many where I live need a reality check. I tell them through reason but bluntly your full of shit or still not dealing with it are you? I hate giving advice or wasting time on people when they don't do anything to change anything.
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Post by m2alik on Apr 26, 2008 16:28:24 GMT -6
I found out to be brutally honest in Fourth Way is a part of External Considering. Able not to lie to yourself or others. Just the cold hard truth. The Fourth Way is alot harder than I thought. I've studied Ritual magic and satanism, necronomicon and Vampirism but Fouth Way is harder than All these combined.As of why I say this you have to inwardly change. The outer to a degree is unimportant. I go outside just to be around people I don't like just to practice Fourth Way. But inside is a separate matter entirely. we all know people change behind closed doors.
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Post by I AM the Way on Apr 29, 2008 23:53:34 GMT -6
sounds like the 4th way is having a profound affect on you. that is good...
here's an interesting youtube video on the work:
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Post by m2alik on May 3, 2008 20:33:51 GMT -6
Yes it really is having a drastic effect on me. No kidding. I take Psychological Commentaries to heart. Everyday I learn something new. I'm on Opposites or finished reading all 5 on Vol. 1. I'm almost finished with Vol. 1. I find opposites very Satanic in a sense. Always trying something new yet learning about yourself. Everybody is a dual person the only important thing is trully accepting it.
I''ll listen to the video soon.
thank you venger.
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Post by m2alik on May 11, 2008 9:46:36 GMT -6
I finished Vol. ! of Psychological Commentaries. As of progress when the work isn't fun anymore and still press on.
I have beeen stoppping certain thoughts. I have changed my outloook on people slightly. by that just realise that is way they are. They have no intentions of changing. I only take situation in The Higher Perspective. As of that seee it for what it is from a mental way and non- identify.
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Post by m2alik on May 25, 2008 14:29:28 GMT -6
Vol.2 is alittle confusing at times. As of progress? Still pressing on.
No it's not fun anymore. why? I Know my Darkside TOO DAMN WELL. It isn't pretty at all. I remind myself of Dr. Jeckyl and Mr. Hyde. The hard part is reconciling them. This is the hardest part.
So I guess I am making progress.
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Post by baphomet on May 25, 2008 19:43:33 GMT -6
If you think you know you're darkside too well... you don't.
Trust me, I made the same mistake.
Suffice it to say you're in for a big surprise. But you probably already know that, or at least feel it coming. A sort of "expectation" of the horrors that lie beneath the outer shell of the psyche.
And yeah, I'm still working on my own "psychological self improvement" path. It's a lifelong thing, I guess. The journey never ends...
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Post by m2alik on May 26, 2008 13:40:35 GMT -6
If I'm just starting to see my Darkside then I'm in for trouble. I can relate to you though.
As of Self Improvement I'm trying. It isn't easy. Whoever says it easy is Full of shit.
Thank You.
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Post by ludovicus on May 27, 2008 12:52:57 GMT -6
If I'm just starting to see my Darkside then I'm in for trouble. I can relate to you though. As of Self Improvement I'm trying. It isn't easy. Whoever says it easy is Full of shit. Thank You. "Self improvement is masturbation. Self DESTRUCTION, that's worthwhile." - Tyler Durden
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Post by m2alik on Jun 19, 2008 9:14:24 GMT -6
As of Darkside of KNOWING to damn well. I started drinking. I NEED to come to grips with it soon. I have to ACCEPT it is normal I guess. But as of Fourth Way applying in daily Life I reason and do circles around so called "smart" people. I see their half ass reason and quite frankly is dissappointing. Basically as of now I don't expect anything of meaning from anybody who doesn't have same interests as me.
As of Higher Consciuosness is alot easier. less time to prepare.
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Post by m2alik on Jun 19, 2008 16:31:09 GMT -6
As of now I am taking a VOW of NO MORE DRINKING PERIOD. I thought about it and I was only avoiding the inevitable. I have begun to come to terms with my Darkside. It isn't as bad as I thought. When is realism ever that bad?
As of other Fourth Way I have no problem.
Back to the other thing is that I have a lower opinion but what do you expect. You can't expect much from people now adays. You might as well brace for the negative then having high hopes.
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Post by Madguten on Jun 20, 2008 11:22:57 GMT -6
As for alcohol, too much of ANYTHING is TOO MUCH. One can drink, but it is often wise to not let these things chain us down TOO MUCH, lest we are trapped by ourselves. But each must walk his/her own path. (who am i to say what is wise or not, lol)
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Post by m2alik on Jun 23, 2008 13:15:46 GMT -6
;DAs of Darkside I have EMBRACED on thrive on it. I have reconciled my darkside with The Fourth Way. I KNOW I am corrupted and don't care. I've reached a point of what won't I do.
As of Fourth Way I stilk practice it but you could say in a Dark way. I see people as a opprtunity but in a reasonably way. Depravity to Enlightenment. I look at this as reverse Enlightenment. Most want to escape this, I have EMBRACED IT. If that one member replies I already I have gone MAD.
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Post by m2alik on Jun 26, 2008 19:25:02 GMT -6
I have applied The Darkside yet still can practice Fourth Way. I have gave up drinking. I am still depraved. As from The Fourth Way as to people i don't care. I am Finally objective. I look at people as idiots and not amused. Frankly people bore me. As to how this applies is being objective.
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Post by m2alik on Jul 1, 2008 12:28:07 GMT -6
I got a reality check over something petty. I seriuosly THOUGHT about EVERYTHING. I am back to my old self in a sense. You could say I was FINALLY READY for a SHOCK. So I took advantage of it.
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Post by m2alik on Jul 6, 2008 19:28:44 GMT -6
I read Vengers post. Trust I know patience when stretched too the limits. Ever since practicing Fourth Way I have GROWN so much would be an uNDERSTATEMENT. I feel nowadays it is all about the individual anyway. NObody gives a damn about you. No matter how HONEST and TRUTHFUL yOU ARE. YES I AM GOING THROUGH SOMETHING BUT I WON'T SAY WHAT. I am Seriuosly thinking of being a hermit. So as of Higher TRUTHS that is ALL WORTH IT TO ME NOW. I give on trying to reason or enlighten.the masses aren't interested trust me. Their after their next check or getting laid. BUT TO THOSE FEW SACRIFICES ARE JUST ANOTHER DAY ON THE GRINDSTONE. So basically I give up on people. As to how this applies to progress. Let's say I made some aims even though what happened today doesn't change them. Goals in Fourth Way are written in stone until MASTERED. So don't ask me what happened today. I won't tell you. But I do mean this. EVERYWORD TYPED IN MY PROGRESS REPORTS.
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Post by m2alik on Jul 21, 2008 20:10:37 GMT -6
;D ;D ;DThe Mind can be a Heaven or Hell. If it isn't both then you are not WORKING. What you mind as in Fourth Way you should BE WORKING. NOW I AM WORKING.
What I learned of today is The Above. The Above is SO IMPORTANT. By Above from The Ray of Creation. Their is no rules or limits. As to the mind. But to impose limits is work. By limits Rules or aims. Now I'm working on try to control which is the hardest, the Mind.
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Post by Madguten on Jul 22, 2008 4:09:11 GMT -6
I agree, quite wonderful and terrible at the same time. As high the peaks as low the valleys As above, so below. (sorry, i'lll stop with the one liners now ;D) EDIT: aw, damn it, heres another:
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Post by m2alik on Jul 23, 2008 12:46:08 GMT -6
Thanks. Do you agree with the rest.? How about my other signature?
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Post by Madguten on Jul 25, 2008 3:29:16 GMT -6
ha ha ha, yes, Yes it is.
It is certainly a task.
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Post by m2alik on Jul 27, 2008 16:21:01 GMT -6
;DThank You Madguten. Fourth Way is a Bitch.
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Post by sin on Aug 22, 2008 12:04:32 GMT -6
In my opinion, 'duality' and 'balance' are illusions and part of the Matrix. These concepts fool you into believing that this is the real you, that you have a 'dual' existence. The only duality in reality is the real you, and others perception of you - period.
While Psychology has its uses, its also a vice and deters progress in self exploration.
Just like the bi-polar bamboozle. Don't believe the hype.
Awaken.
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Post by m2alik on May 17, 2009 16:29:25 GMT -6
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