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Jan 8, 2017 14:40:05 GMT -6
Post by shawnhartnell on Jan 8, 2017 14:40:05 GMT -6
"I must stay conscious through the madness and chaos" Who knew?
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Jan 8, 2017 14:41:43 GMT -6
Post by shawnhartnell on Jan 8, 2017 14:41:43 GMT -6
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Jan 11, 2017 1:53:05 GMT -6
Post by thejasonsorrell on Jan 11, 2017 1:53:05 GMT -6
I dig how these concepts reverberate through our culture, even pop-culture.
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Jan 11, 2017 10:06:00 GMT -6
Post by shawnhartnell on Jan 11, 2017 10:06:00 GMT -6
Would you consider Fight Club an example of that?
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Jan 12, 2017 1:22:32 GMT -6
Post by thejasonsorrell on Jan 12, 2017 1:22:32 GMT -6
Not as directly as stating "I need to wake up".
"Fight Club" presents a parallel set of concepts. Here, we deal with mastering the personality (from a Gurdjieff perspective), recognizing that it is a tool that acts as the medium between the self and the world. It is shaped from both sides, and if allowed can subjugate the self and force us to devote all our time to it. The Gurdjieff-goal is to make the self distinctive enough from the personality to allow for the personality to be subjugated to the self, internally purposed versus externally conditioned.
"Fight Club" presents two personalities struggling for dominance. I would suggest that the narrator only begins to develop a sense of self by the end of the book, and then out of necessity.
But, I am an art making meat-puppy. Pay no attention to my ditherings.
By the by, I have not yet read the sequel, which was presented as a graphic novel.
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Jan 12, 2017 1:56:01 GMT -6
Post by shawnhartnell on Jan 12, 2017 1:56:01 GMT -6
I haven't read it either.
According to what you just said, wouldn't that make Tyler Durden the unnamed narrator's false personality?
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Jan 12, 2017 2:02:36 GMT -6
Post by shawnhartnell on Jan 12, 2017 2:02:36 GMT -6
Not as directly as stating "I need to wake up".
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Jan 12, 2017 2:05:09 GMT -6
Post by thejasonsorrell on Jan 12, 2017 2:05:09 GMT -6
I would say that "Jack" and Tyler Durden are both false personalities. I would even suggest that it is "Jack's" struggle with the lack of a real self that allows Tyler to manifest. Tyler forces "Jack" to shake loose of both personalities and begin to evaluate existence in a more deliberate fashion.
But, again, I know nothing. Pretend I am not here.
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