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Post by sin on Jan 5, 2012 16:17:12 GMT -6
We have groups on the Social Network, these can be made private from the rest of the network, it's a matter of adjusting the settings. I don't think it will be used as much as FB, at this point.
Here on the forum, aren't there private areas? Again, will it be used as much as the FB group? Seems to me, people are logged into FB daily, and visiting our private group there seems to be working out fine.
I'm game for experimenting to see which works the best.
CS
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Post by Shaz'rahjeem on Jan 6, 2012 0:52:01 GMT -6
I agree with Venger the whole cult would do this. There is no need to share personal info. if all you plan on doing is supporting each other. what your talking about isn't going to be jeopardized if a few people come and go from the circle. But again the whole cult could, should and would function in a similar way if it where done. There isn't any planning required either, it's just a matter of putting it into action.
A couple years back the cult use to progress in a similar manner to this anyway. It was only a few that shared the progress and regularly supported each other where it was needed. No one was nor is obligated to share anything beyond the relevant stuff. since the support is limited to the work, and this forum is for primarily discussing the work there's no reason to put more obstacles in front of your self by trying to manage a group of people.
AWAKE!!!
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Post by sin on Jan 6, 2012 15:08:01 GMT -6
Should, but it doesn't appear that this is occurring on a wide-scale here on the forum. What can we do to encourage this, in your opinion?
CS
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Post by Voraxith on Jan 6, 2012 22:20:35 GMT -6
You know, I just watched that Tyler Durden clip and read all the quotes, and I came to a realization: that movie is why I can't get a job now. Because every low-level menial job that is essential to the corporate gear machine, such as dish washer and janitor and prep cook and all those, now require one to pass a criminal background check. To root out those who would take Tyler's advice and abuse their position. So, from one criminal to another: thanks, douche!
[glow=red,2,300]Ia![/glow]
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Post by sin on Jan 7, 2012 14:25:01 GMT -6
A few months back, I got a phone call from a polling organization about business ethics. It was a method by which large corporations create a policy of business ethics. It asked questions about everything from stealing office supplies to managers not practicing 'good ethics'. At the conclusion, it summarized that corruption in the corporate world is among the reasons the economy suffers. Those with a criminal background are more inclined to not practice 'good ethics' in the work place. Criminal background checks are a 'screening' method, but don't always guarantee that employees are 'team players'.
CS
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Post by Shaz'rahjeem on Jan 8, 2012 17:34:24 GMT -6
Should, but it doesn't appear that this is occurring on a wide-scale here on the forum. What can we do to encourage this, in your opinion?
CS I guess we could start making the effort to share more ourselves, as far as what we're doing magickly and creatively. Lead by example. We could even make it mandatory for new members. Once a week a post detailing everything they have and haven't done, what they thought about it all and what they want to try different. Perhaps we make the responsibilities of the cultist more then just to him/ herself. It would certainly help make a more structured learning environment.
i would also think that specific goals of each cultist should still remain their own. Lest we start grooming sheep. Anything could be included from creative expression to hard line magickal exploration. In theory this sought of thing could be set up as easy as informing people of their duties to the cult. Requiring something real and regular from cultists would certainly help create a stronger and more bonded cult in my opinion.
thoughts?
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Post by sin on Jan 8, 2012 19:07:41 GMT -6
A handful of users post regularly, it doesn't appear to be that impacting on other users. Some just like to check the forum to read, but not necessarily post themselves.
Perhaps its the subjects they choose to engage in?
The format of this forum?
Could we organize it to be more efficient?
CS
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Post by Shaz'rahjeem on Jan 8, 2012 20:40:35 GMT -6
It's probably that forums aren't particularly popular anymore. I personally like the forum, as it's simple and direct. I understand though it may not be for everyone, which is fair enough. These regular updates might be easier if we established a specific page on the website designed to make it easy to access, post and reply. That way it could be it's own thing separate from the normal banter. Alternatively it could work by just letting people make the decision as to where they post their updates, weather it be the network, facebook or here on the forum. The former seems it may be a better way to go in that it makes it more official and would help make monitoring easier. It also would mean that it's understood to be requirement for people wishing to consider themselves members and not just casual affiliates. I think this idea could even work by making a new section in the forum for it, each member creating a thread which could serve as a personal blog to updated weekly. The traffic that it would generate would also effect the conversations taking place else where on the forum. Maybe the open door policy the cult has with membership is to lax, as it's clearly not conducive to any significant group progress. if new members are given something real to do that involves the rest of us as well it might help keep them enthused, rather then letting them just float in, get a reading list, then float off. If we give them something to do, rather then just something to read, then they might become truly active cultists.
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Post by sin on Jan 10, 2012 8:00:18 GMT -6
I also enjoy the forum. I like the idea of a section for each user to post their own personal updates. There is a similar area, but it seems to be filled with a lot of nonsensical topics. Perhaps we can crack down on the content approved for the new area?
At one point I asked VS to make the site public so that it could be viewed on other networks without having to sign in. It has since been changed back (con's out-weighed the pro's). I also asked how we could examine the 1000+ members and weed out inactive accounts, seemed like a lot of work and again, the con's out-weighed the pro's.
We have the social network now, it's under a year old. I think the forum should be reserved for cult members, what do you think? Too limiting?
If you check the stats on a daily basis, we have more guest log-ins than we do member log-ins. I realize people like to read to see what's going on in here, but perhaps this isn't the right place for that?
What say you?
CS
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Post by Shaz'rahjeem on Jan 10, 2012 17:35:13 GMT -6
I know there's a function for the admin account on proboards to create boards which are password accessible only. The forum could be public and still leave these particular boards private. You may also be able to choose certain account and allow access that way. With this people will know only other cultists can see. We could make one for the heralds and the WoTD etc.
This would also serve as a roster. In that you'd need only see how many threads are in the herald board, to know how many there are. If we were to requiring a weekly update, then it would make 'weeding out the inactive' almost organic.
I'd be in favor of something like this over making the entire forum coc member only. It'd make getting people to stay hard if they can't get in initially.
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Post by sin on Jan 10, 2012 18:18:21 GMT -6
That may be a workable solution, but entirely up to VS. I'm not an admin on this site, just the social network.
Sounds like a plan, unless someone else has a better idea?
What say you members? VS?
CS
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2012 16:33:15 GMT -6
I was about to tell you Priestess Cora'Shan, this must absolutely be done, because many posts if not most of them on the facebook group (I like facebook less ans less, but it's my problem) should be here in public, for they are not "private" at all. So they must benefit to everybody, here on this forum.
I'm afraid it was not such a good idea...
Now is the moment of Awakening !
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Post by I AM the Way on Jan 16, 2012 11:58:22 GMT -6
That may be a workable solution, but entirely up to VS. I'm not an admin on this site, just the social network.
Sounds like a plan, unless someone else has a better idea?
What say you members? VS?
CS Ask and ye shall receive!
Registered members will be able to see the board I just created; guests will not. It is specifically for sharing our personal failings and difficulties with the Great Work. The board is also password protected. If you want the password, then send me a p.m. Warning: only Wizards of the Terrible Darkness and higher degrees shall be granted access.
By His loathsome tentacles,
VS
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Post by lucifersman666 on Jan 17, 2012 10:34:03 GMT -6
I am honored to be considered a member with harldly nothing to offer The COC or Impessimus,at this time.I truly hope that involvement in this forum will totally change that. ;D
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Post by Kai'zen on Jan 25, 2012 23:12:16 GMT -6
I do a lot of work, but I simply don't have regular access to a reliable internet connection where I live. At the moment I'm writing body of rituals focused around Dagon, Shub-Niggurath, Tsathoggua, Cthulhu and Yog-Sothoth, originally I was working on it with Loki Dreaming and Ny'Obstaresh, who I haven't heard from for some time. I could start uploading the stuff I've done when I can, but without an actual Grotto membership it doesn't seem all that relevant.
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Post by kalasto on Jan 26, 2012 8:01:54 GMT -6
Hey guys.
If yall are doing this shindig i would be interested in helping in what ways i can and participating.
Kalasto
Belief is reality.
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Post by I AM the Way on Jan 26, 2012 10:52:36 GMT -6
I do a lot of work, but I simply don't have regular access to a reliable internet connection where I live. At the moment I'm writing body of rituals focused around Dagon, Shub-Niggurath, Tsathoggua, Cthulhu and Yog-Sothoth, originally I was working on it with Loki Dreaming and Ny'Obstaresh, who I haven't heard from for some time. I could start uploading the stuff I've done when I can, but without an actual Grotto membership it doesn't seem all that relevant. Why would you need a Grotto to upload stuff or make your rituals relevant?
Awake!
VS
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Post by sin on Jan 26, 2012 11:08:03 GMT -6
I do a lot of work, but I simply don't have regular access to a reliable internet connection where I live. At the moment I'm writing body of rituals focused around Dagon, Shub-Niggurath, Tsathoggua, Cthulhu and Yog-Sothoth, originally I was working on it with Loki Dreaming and Ny'Obstaresh, who I haven't heard from for some time. I could start uploading the stuff I've done when I can, but without an actual Grotto membership it doesn't seem all that relevant. Was it written for group work? Can it be modified for solitary practice? In my personal experience, the solitary ritual is far more meaningful and effective. You are not concentrating on 'play acting', or what other people are thinking and doing. Not to say group ritual doesn't have its benefits, but I wouldn't be waiting around for other people to do your Work. People come and go, while you remain constant.
I got into the habit of video recording myself to see what I was doing during trance. I reserve those for personal analysis, most of what you see published is demonstrative or theatrical for promotional purposes. I've had my fair share of feedback in terms of the affects my videos have on others. Some actually enjoy them for them soothing mental affects and visual interpretations.
Another cultist that does something similar is Nargagole, you can find his ritual madness on youtube. We do this. It is not a requisite that YOU do this. If internet access is problematic, or frequency sporadic to reach out to the cult for its fellowship - then I recommend that you take what you've learned so far, and Work with it. Test, perform trials, record your results and note what affects you most profoundly. Each person is different, and will have a different schemata for how they view the world and themselves in it. The dreamwork blogs are good, but not required that you blog them. You could be keeping a physical book that will become your Necronomical (as Ny has done with his own ritualism and notes.)
RISE!
CS
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Post by Verins'Sharaz on Mar 11, 2012 18:43:18 GMT -6
Has this since been dropped, or is the supported focus work still going on in the password protected forum? If it is still going on, please consider my request to join. I am mostly self-sufficient, but my life does have a tendency to distract me from the Work. I would be nice to have others who can help keep me focused and for whom I can do the same.
Inha Xestria Oola Levmin!
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Post by sin on Mar 12, 2012 15:37:33 GMT -6
Still going on, also see the private board.
CS
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Post by patience on Mar 21, 2012 22:27:38 GMT -6
Hello, I was interested in this Mutual Coaching Project. I went to the private board but I think there is a specific password, which makes sense. Any way I am interested in the occult, and working on myself, but I do have issues with trust as well as episodes of erratic spastic behavior, which has never...not once served me in a way that has made my life better. Overall I understand that I am my own worst enemy, I can be negative and I can be a painfully slow learner...as well at times off-puttish. There are also many great things about me which I would hope to work on captivating and recognizing consistently, instead of sporadically. So I was wondering if this 'Mutual Coaching' involves harsh punitive type interactions with mocking or personal stabs at people, or ganging up on others? Some of the websites/forums I have been on seem to focus on using such things as a way to teach. So far that hasn't really worked out great for me and I need to find another route. No worries if this Mutual Coaching Project would not apply to me because I am not an official member just a site visitor. I am also looking at other sites for guidance in some areas.
Don't worry. Be happy. Make efforts.
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Post by Verins'Sharaz on Mar 22, 2012 0:07:48 GMT -6
Don't worry, Patience. The Mutual Coaching project is not about abuse, it is about accountability. If you set a goal for yourself and ask others to motivate you in achieving it, we intend to do whatever we can to help keep you focused on achieving your goal. As long as you can handle others encouraging you to push your limits and to think outside the box, you should not have a problem.
Zaalt Apreth Xestria!
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Post by sin on Mar 22, 2012 10:39:47 GMT -6
There is a private board here for discussing your personal challenges out of the view of the public eye. PM me for the password.
We also have a FB group, it's more of a group effort to keep everyone on track and motivated.
CS
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Post by oola on Apr 6, 2012 2:46:42 GMT -6
Interested train of discussions.
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Post by patience on Apr 7, 2012 10:06:48 GMT -6
Ok. I am going to post on that private board, I am just working my thoughts out still.
Thanks.
Don't worry. Be happy. Make efforts.
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Post by blackviper122 on May 12, 2012 23:31:08 GMT -6
i really agree a little coaching would be great . ;D awaken!
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