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Post by Cain Da'arnesh on Mar 7, 2011 21:52:31 GMT -6
Dorian Yates recommends using just enough weight were you can't quite finish that last set. What do ya'll think about that?
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Post by Timotheus Prophet of Darkness on Mar 10, 2011 16:45:41 GMT -6
Dorian Yates recommends using just enough weight were you can't quite finish that last set. What do ya'll think about that? Dorian Yates is also a former Pro-bodybuilder which means roids,and a roid user is the last person you should go to for advice. My sound advice is this go to Brooks Kubiks Dinosaur training website ,subscribe to his new letter,email him and ask him questions and also get his book "Chalk and Sweat",it'll give you real result producing workouts and info.!
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Post by Cain Da'arnesh on Mar 11, 2011 12:16:51 GMT -6
Well alright then...
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Post by Timotheus Prophet of Darkness on Mar 13, 2011 19:06:13 GMT -6
Just ya know trying to keep you from getting faulty info that'll have to doing like i did spending years spinning your wheells wondering why your not getting bigger and stronger despite following the "pros" advice.
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Post by Cain Da'arnesh on Mar 17, 2011 19:26:59 GMT -6
Roger that good buddy!
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Post by desmond1 on Nov 17, 2012 10:51:40 GMT -6
Hello Guys i running in the morning without breakfast better for burning body fat or is going on the fitness treadmill machine. If running how many distance should I run?Thanks a lot!!
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Post by shawnhartnell on Nov 17, 2012 23:48:28 GMT -6
Dorian Yates recommends using just enough weight were you can't quite finish that last set. What do ya'll think about that? This is an excerpt from a book I've been reading and highly recommend, the 4-Hour Body by Timothy Ferriss. Hope it helps.
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Post by thorgrim on Nov 18, 2012 21:33:22 GMT -6
Burning out? if you ask me its very important. As a guy who has been lifting weights for over half of his life on and off, I personally after a good warm up of course, perform each and evey set to failure. Use as much weight as possible for as many reps as possible, you need to be able to tap into the beast within while training. I go into my version of the berserkrgangr, I wont stop until the weight is unable to be moved and has to be racked for me. This is the only way I have built up to a near 400lb bench and 500lb deadlift. Not to piss in anyones cheerios but genetics are the biggest barrier, if you come from a long line of laborers and warriors, you have a much better chance of meeting your athletic goals. If you come from a long line of wimps, chances are no matter how hard you try your never going to get where you want, dont lose heart however as you can at least improve. Genetic memory can make or break you though. My self and a black friend of mine are the strongest people we both know, he is ofcourse of slave stock, and I can trace my line legitamately back to Viking raiding parties in Scotland, because of this he says I "Aint the average white boy", and a "viking honkey" lol, because as we all know crackers crumble, honkeys rumble. So are you a cracker?
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Post by Timotheus Prophet of Darkness on Nov 20, 2012 13:21:05 GMT -6
Burning out? if you ask me its very important. As a guy who has been lifting weights for over half of his life on and off, I personally after a good warm up of course, perform each and evey set to failure. Use as much weight as possible for as many reps as possible, you need to be able to tap into the beast within while training. I go into my version of the berserkrgangr, I wont stop until the weight is unable to be moved and has to be racked for me. This is the only way I have built up to a near 400lb bench and 500lb deadlift. Not to piss in anyones cheerios but genetics are the biggest barrier, if you come from a long line of laborers and warriors, you have a much better chance of meeting your athletic goals. If you come from a long line of wimps, chances are no matter how hard you try your never going to get where you want, dont lose heart however as you can at least improve. Genetic memory can make or break you though. My self and a black friend of mine are the strongest people we both know, he is ofcourse of slave stock, and I can trace my line legitamately back to Viking raiding parties in Scotland, because of this he says I "Aint the average white boy", and a "viking honkey" lol, because as we all know crackers crumble, honkeys rumble. So are you a cracker? whimps smips the "mind" is the ulitimate determining factor not genetics because it(the mind) is what can ultimatley make or break you. And not to piss in you're cheerios mate but this: "If you come from a long line of wimps, chances are no matter how hard you try your never going to get where you want" line is total BUNK! Read the books "Super Strength" by Alan Clavert,and Physical Training Simplified by Mark H.Berry they gave example sin their books of people that according to today's science would be considered gentic wrecks who over came bad health severe weakness,etc etc to develop stong,well-proportioned and muscular bodies. A person fron a long line of whimps as you say even if they can't grow bigger or stronger on most training programs can do so with the 20 rep squat routine if they work hard with it and follow it to the T! Well i'm not a cracker but i'm not a honkey(both or racist terms and i have pride enough in myself not to call myself by such terms) I AM A CELT!
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Post by thorgrim on Nov 20, 2012 16:12:45 GMT -6
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Post by thorgrim on Nov 20, 2012 16:20:51 GMT -6
OMG am I pissed off, I just spent 20 minutes writing you a well thought out post explaining in detail why genetics most certainly ARE the biggest determining factor in strength and muscle mass, and the mother fucker dumped somehow, I minimized it to copy another link and it was gone. WTF? well in it's place, Ive been at this for 22 years and im telling you your wrong period.
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Post by Timotheus Prophet of Darkness on Nov 20, 2012 22:43:16 GMT -6
OMG am I pissed off, I just spent 20 minutes writing you a well thought out post explaining in detail why genetics most certainly ARE the biggest determining factor in strength and muscle mass, and the mother fucker dumped somehow, I minimized it to copy another link and it was gone. WTF? well in it's place, Ive been at this for 22 years and im telling you your wrong period. Dude you have you're opinion,I have mine,please don't tell me i'm wrong,let us just agree to disagree. But i will tell you why i disagree with you and think the "mind" is what makes or breaks you,it is because it's been known by Physical Culturalists for nigh on 100 years that the mind and the will power directed by it has has a huge baering on the results you get. Plus you can have the best genetics ,the best program,the best trainer,diet etc etc on the planet and doubt you're ability to get stronger and more muscular and all the above will mean diddly,and viz a vi you can have basically the worst gentics but get the best program,diet ,and trainer etc and if you train hard and use you're mind to direct you're will power and "Believe" in you're ability to build a first class physique and great strength you will. I also would suggest you read Dinosaur Training by Brooks Kubik in chapter 4 he address why people fail in their training. Page 42: "People fail to get results from weight training usually have one thing in common:the don't train hard.As Ken Leistner once stated: Experience has taught me that the majority of trainees won't ever make the progress the envision for themselves because: 1.They will not train as hard as possible. 2.The do not believe that a program can be effective if it appears limited in the number of exercises. 3.They will not train as hard as possible 4.The lack confidence in their ability to gain muscle strength and size 5. They will not train hard enough." Chapter 19 thru 27 cover every thing from concentration,mental training,goal setting,motivation and inspiration,but chapter 23:The Iron Will to Succeed also discusses genetics as well,but i'm going to go to page 188 which is part of chapter 23 to qoute from the section: "Peary Rader:Mr.Inspiration Peary Rader,founder,editor and publisher of IRON MAN magazine for fifty years,is one of the best examples of a man with iron determination and an unshakable will to achieve his dream of power and muscular size.Peary Rader was an absolute eban pole when he began his training.He stood around 6'tall and weighed all of 120 pounds soaking wet.His knees were bigger then his thighs,his elbows bigger then his biceps,and his head bigger then his torso.A picture of Peary the way he once looked appears in one of the very first issues of IRON MAN-it shows a bag-of-bones with what appears to be the worst potential of all time for building muscular size and strength.His early results bear this out 100%-after ten years of training,Peary had not gained even a pound of muscle. But there was one thing about Peary Rader that WAS big-his heart.Peary never gave up.He ddin't quit.He kept on going.After ten years of unsuccessful efforts,Peary read about a new exercise system based on plenty of high rep squats with lots of deep breathing between reps-an exercise system promoted by Mark H.Berry The squat program was raising eye-brows throughout the world of weights becausae of the startling transformations it brought to such men as Joseph C.Hise and William Boone.After going no where for ten years,Peary gave the squat program a try.And it worked .Did it ever work! Peary gained ten pounds in his first month on the program and almost 100 ounds in the next 2 years." That dude shows the power of the "Mind" over the body regardless of genetics,and what can be achieved even by people with poor gentics when they conbine the belief in their ability to build muscle and strength with a good program. I'd also like to you should take into consideration the effects of the mind upon genetics as well: I suggest reading up on the ALOIS P. SWOBODA stuff on this site especially his Conscious Evolution book www.sandowplus.co.uk/Competition/Swoboda/swoboda.htmalso: www.maxalding.co.uk/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=404&hilit=ALOIS+P.+SWOBODAwww.maxalding.co.uk/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=138
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Post by shawnhartnell on Nov 20, 2012 23:41:57 GMT -6
thorgrim: Just because the method studied in the experiment was unsuccessful at changing gene expression, it doesn't mean that it can 't be done. I'm going to do some research and get back to you.
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Post by Timotheus Prophet of Darkness on Nov 20, 2012 23:54:45 GMT -6
thorgrim: Just because the method studied in the experiment was unsuccessful at changing gene expression, it doesn't mean that it can 't be done. I'm going to do some research and get back to you. You might be interested then in some of the links i posted
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Post by thorgrim on Nov 21, 2012 9:58:34 GMT -6
Believe what you want to believe then, I wont try to help anymore. Its not an argument, its science. I have met a couple guys in my life for example, who believed with all of their heart they were gonna beat my ass, until they collapsed at my feet after only a few blows. Classic "everyones a tough guy till go time" syndrome. Their belief did very little. Genetics determine body mechanics (shorter limbs and wider hips makes a stronger man) which effect leverage, hormonal regulation, fast twitch/ slowtwitch cross section size etc.. The two factors determining the whole picture are Genetic and environmental, the mind can only effect environmental (making yourself train). Your spouting psuedoscience no different than those adds they ran in the back of comic books in the 50's. Trying to make a buck on the skinny kid, I said in the first place you CAN change yourself with environmental factors, but SCIENCE real science, proves we all have different limits. I hit my gentetic limit around 400lbs on bench, yours might be 500. Thats just tough shit for me. I cant click my heels and believe myself into 500lbs. Sorry
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Post by shawnhartnell on Nov 21, 2012 10:07:19 GMT -6
Are you satisfied with your genetic limits?
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Post by thorgrim on Nov 21, 2012 10:37:44 GMT -6
I would have to say yes, as I rarely meet someone stronger than myself. Typically those who are at a competative level can smoke my ass with their total (big 3), I am for most of my friends and family "the strong one", I could manipulate my genetics with HGH of steroids but I would only consider that if I stood to make money. If I was teetering between a pro contract or not getting one, then I may be inclined to alter my genetics, but I am just a naturally strong guy who responds well to the environmental stimulation of increased work loads. It's only for self gratification that I persue it. That and the disipline it instills in strengthening the will along side the body. Thats just me though, I get a kick out of being "that guy".
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Post by shawnhartnell on Nov 21, 2012 10:46:13 GMT -6
If you needed to improve your strength past your current limits, would you perfer altering your genetics or another way?
BTW, what is the significance of 'fast twitch/ slowtwitch cross section'? What's the difference?
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Post by Timotheus Prophet of Darkness on Nov 21, 2012 11:26:15 GMT -6
Believe what you want to believe then, I wont try to help anymore. Its not an argument, its science. I have met a couple guys in my life for example, who believed with all of their heart they were gonna beat my ass, until they collapsed at my feet after only a few blows. Classic "everyones a tough guy till go time" syndrome. Their belief did very little. Genetics determine body mechanics (shorter limbs and wider hips makes a stronger man) which effect leverage, hormonal regulation, fast twitch/ slowtwitch cross section size etc.. The two factors determining the whole picture are Genetic and environmental, the mind can only effect environmental (making yourself train). Your spouting psuedoscience no different than those adds they ran in the back of comic books in the 50's. Trying to make a buck on the skinny kid, I said in the first place you CAN change yourself with environmental factors, but SCIENCE real science, proves we all have different limits. I hit my gentetic limit around 400lbs on bench, yours might be 500. Thats just tough shit for me. I cant click my heels and believe myself into 500lbs. Sorry psuedoscience? lol. You accept 400 pounds as you're limit therefore you will progress no father then 400 in the benchpress. Remeber any average man has within himself the potential to work up to 300 pounds are more in the benchpress,400 pounds are more in the squat and 500 pounds are more in the deadlift.
As Reg Park once stated,"Don't set any poundage as a target--don't think of any weight as being heavy--the sky is the limit."
To be totally honest I don't think theres a man alive who has reached his genetic potential,and for another the science of genetics is really in it's infancy when you think about it,and no one can actually tell yet what a person's genetic potential is.
To be honest "you're" limit to around 400 on the benchpress is within you're mind,and if you wanted to and believed you could bench more you could with consistant training benchpress more then around 400 pounds.But you sound like someone whose accepted around 400 as their limit,and no one can change you're mind about that,and anyone that states that you coudl with training over time do more and even cite examples of what the mind can do for the body you lash back with claims of "psuedoscience" and closemindedness,and yet at the same time come across like you are a member of somesort of Genetic elite when the truth is you could have merely average or below average gentetics and through determination,belief in you're ability to achieve you're goals and consistant training achieved you're goals..
I on the other hand instead of accepting a given weight as my genetic limit want to see just how strong I can get which also includes beating Arthur Saxon's 371 pound bentpress ( a one hand type lift).As to muscular growth itself,I take the approach of the old time Physical Culturalists,and see it as secondary in nature to health,vigor,vitailty,longivity,endurance,agility and speed,but that doesn't mean I don't have a set of measurment goals i'd love to achieve though.
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Post by thorgrim on Nov 21, 2012 13:59:48 GMT -6
Post your pics bro.
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Post by shawnhartnell on Nov 21, 2012 14:10:02 GMT -6
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Post by thorgrim on Nov 21, 2012 16:42:55 GMT -6
HAHAHA! Ok man. Not a bad looking guy, fairly symetrical features, expressive eyes. Your not ugly by any means, but I was refering to the temple you built dawg. Get your swole on and show us them pipes. The comment was actually meant for tim since he is feircly defending mind over matter, if you dont mind it dont matter right? You may be in the passenger seat of his car Shawn, but I think you at least recognise that each of us have our limits, thats why neither of us play pro sports, no matter how bad we wanted to. As clint said "a man has to know his limitations".
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Post by thorgrim on Nov 21, 2012 16:59:11 GMT -6
I was gonna say pack this thread up and post it on bodybuilding.coms forum, and then count the seconds until your laughed off of the boards, but since thats not nice, I have brought a nice article from over there for your perusal.
Optimize your genetic potential In this article I want to talk about genetic potential. I found this to be one of the most interesting things Ifve learned about. Every person has their specific genetic potential: a point where their bodies just canft physically get faster or bigger or stronger. Before I go into the details I want to talk about different body types and how it relates to genetic potential. Different body types are better at different things. There are three generic body types that play big roles in genetic potential and bodybuilding. The three body types are ectomorph, endomorph, and mesomorph. Ectomorphs: Ectomorphs are a predominantly skinny body type and typically have flat chests and small shoulders. They have a very lean muscle mass and have no problem gcutting downh on body fat when bodybuilding. An ectomorph will generally find it very hard to gain weight and have a relatively fast metabolism. The very extreme ectomorph may have pretty long fingers, toes, and neck. A typical ectomorph has a face that is triangular with a slightly receding jaw. Famous ectomorph body types include Brad Pitt, Edward Norton, and Kate Moss. Ectomorph body types are not your prototypical bodybuilder and often have a limited genetic potential for bodybuilding. Mesomorph: Mesomorph body types have naturally built physiques and have a great genetic potential for bodybuilding. A mesomorph will generally have a large bone structure and is often naturally athletic. Mesomorph body types are naturally strong without doing anything and find it pretty easy to gain and lose weight. Mesomorph body types is the best for bodybuilding as their genetic potential is so great. The mesomorph is naturally strong and has the perfect genetic potential for building muscle, and often gains muscle very quickly. Famous mesomorph body types include Bruce Willis and Sylvester Stallone. Endomorph: Endomorph body types are generally pretty soft and round. The endomorph gains muscle and fat very easily and is generally short and stocky. They often have a relatively slow metabolism and find losing weight to be difficult. Endomorph body types are usually naturally pretty strong, especially in the upper legs, which is great for bodybuilding. Endomorphs tend to have a relatively high genetic potential, although it is not as high as the genetic potential of the mesomorph body type. Famous endomorph body types include Jack Black and Chris Farley. Very few people are solely one of these three body types and most people are mixtures of them. Every body type has its advantages and disadvantages but itfs up to you to get the most out of your genetic potential. Okay so that was the general aspect of geneticsf role in bodybuilding. The more specific aspect is determining your overall genetic potential. And when I say genetic potential, it means natural as in no steroids, pro-hormones, and all the other muscle-enhancing supplements that people consume to get results quickly and unnaturally. There is a reason that there is a genetic potential. There is a reason our bodies say gno moreh once we hit a certain point. Itfs because our bodies werenft met to hold that much weight, or that much muscle. Take away all the side effects that steroids and all these other supplements give, the stress put on the heart for a little extra muscle is the worst side effect of all the bodybuilding supplements. The amount of stress put on the heart caused by steroids and the excess muscle mass that steroids produce, can often times cause heart failures and heart problems. According to a study conducted by Thomas MacDonald of Scotland, Heart disease risk was more than 2.5 times higher in people taking high doses of steroids compared with bodybuilders not taking steroids. In another study conducted at the Orange County Heart Institute, 14 bodybuilders known to be using steroids for at least 10 years were given tests. A majority of the study subjects had premature and severe coronary artery disease. Several of the bodybuilding subjects in their early 30Œs had hardening of the arteries similar to a 75 year old man. The earlier in life you develop coronary artery plaque, the more likely you will die of a heart attack at an early age. Anyways, back to genetic potential. Knowing genetic potential can really keep many people from getting so disappointed with results and making unrealistic goals when starting to work out. Although genetic potential cannot be controlled naturally, it can be optimized. So herefs what a good training/nutrition plan would do for an average bodybuilder who bodybuilds regularly and correctly. After 4 or 5 years the genetic potential should be reached leaving the general possible weight gain of muscle to be 40-50 pounds over a lifetime (which is a lot of muscle weight).
Year of Proper Training Potential Rate of Muscle Gain per Year
1 20-25 pounds (2 pounds per month)
2 10-12 pounds (1 pound per month)
3 5-6 pounds (0.5 pound per month)
4+ 2-3 pounds (not worth calculating) ¡This is a very general table and everyonefs different. The reason many people become discouraged after long periods of bodybuilding is because the results start to slow down the more and more the individual works out as shown by the chart above. Many other factors play a role with reaching your ggenetic potentialh such as age. ¡ So the way your specific genetic potential is configured is based on your wrists, ankles, height, and body fat percentage goal. ¡ So to do this: ¡1. measure the circumference of your ankle at the smallest point between the calf muscle and the ankle. ¡2. Measure the circumference around your wrist just below the bony lump on the outside of your wrist. ¡3. Measure your height without shoes on. ¡4. Finally, decide what would be your ideal body fat %. ¡So herefs the formula for genetic potential. The gWh stands for wrist circumference, the gAh for ankle circumference, the g%BFh for goal body fat, and the gHh for height without shoes.. Different body types may react slightly differently to the genetic potential formula. Extreme ectomorph body types may only get 95% of the formulafs predictions of genetic potential while endomorph and mesomorph body types may get 105% of the prediction of genetic potential.
I hope you found this information be interesting and helpful rather than demotivating. I personally found learning about my own genetic potential to be very informative and Ifm hoping it did the same for you.
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Post by shawnhartnell on Nov 21, 2012 18:02:20 GMT -6
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Post by thorgrim on Nov 21, 2012 21:38:50 GMT -6
I think he is legit. High intensity training has a well documented history of success. I should try it sometime, its an environmental factor that may help me potentiate my genetic limitations. 34 lbs of rock is one hell of an accomplishment.
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Post by Timotheus Prophet of Darkness on Nov 26, 2012 12:42:00 GMT -6
I was gonna say pack this thread up and post it on bodybuilding.coms forum, and then count the seconds until your laughed off of the boards, but since thats not nice, I have brought a nice article from over there for your perusal. Optimize your genetic potential In this article I want to talk about genetic potential. I found this to be one of the most interesting things Ifve learned about. Every person has their specific genetic potential: a point where their bodies just canft physically get faster or bigger or stronger. Before I go into the details I want to talk about different body types and how it relates to genetic potential. Different body types are better at different things. There are three generic body types that play big roles in genetic potential and bodybuilding. The three body types are ectomorph, endomorph, and mesomorph. Ectomorphs: Ectomorphs are a predominantly skinny body type and typically have flat chests and small shoulders. They have a very lean muscle mass and have no problem gcutting downh on body fat when bodybuilding. An ectomorph will generally find it very hard to gain weight and have a relatively fast metabolism. The very extreme ectomorph may have pretty long fingers, toes, and neck. A typical ectomorph has a face that is triangular with a slightly receding jaw. Famous ectomorph body types include Brad Pitt, Edward Norton, and Kate Moss. Ectomorph body types are not your prototypical bodybuilder and often have a limited genetic potential for bodybuilding. Mesomorph: Mesomorph body types have naturally built physiques and have a great genetic potential for bodybuilding. A mesomorph will generally have a large bone structure and is often naturally athletic. Mesomorph body types are naturally strong without doing anything and find it pretty easy to gain and lose weight. Mesomorph body types is the best for bodybuilding as their genetic potential is so great. The mesomorph is naturally strong and has the perfect genetic potential for building muscle, and often gains muscle very quickly. Famous mesomorph body types include Bruce Willis and Sylvester Stallone. Endomorph: Endomorph body types are generally pretty soft and round. The endomorph gains muscle and fat very easily and is generally short and stocky. They often have a relatively slow metabolism and find losing weight to be difficult. Endomorph body types are usually naturally pretty strong, especially in the upper legs, which is great for bodybuilding. Endomorphs tend to have a relatively high genetic potential, although it is not as high as the genetic potential of the mesomorph body type. Famous endomorph body types include Jack Black and Chris Farley. Very few people are solely one of these three body types and most people are mixtures of them. Every body type has its advantages and disadvantages but itfs up to you to get the most out of your genetic potential. Okay so that was the general aspect of geneticsf role in bodybuilding. The more specific aspect is determining your overall genetic potential. And when I say genetic potential, it means natural as in no steroids, pro-hormones, and all the other muscle-enhancing supplements that people consume to get results quickly and unnaturally. There is a reason that there is a genetic potential. There is a reason our bodies say gno moreh once we hit a certain point. Itfs because our bodies werenft met to hold that much weight, or that much muscle. Take away all the side effects that steroids and all these other supplements give, the stress put on the heart for a little extra muscle is the worst side effect of all the bodybuilding supplements. The amount of stress put on the heart caused by steroids and the excess muscle mass that steroids produce, can often times cause heart failures and heart problems. According to a study conducted by Thomas MacDonald of Scotland, Heart disease risk was more than 2.5 times higher in people taking high doses of steroids compared with bodybuilders not taking steroids. In another study conducted at the Orange County Heart Institute, 14 bodybuilders known to be using steroids for at least 10 years were given tests. A majority of the study subjects had premature and severe coronary artery disease. Several of the bodybuilding subjects in their early 30Œs had hardening of the arteries similar to a 75 year old man. The earlier in life you develop coronary artery plaque, the more likely you will die of a heart attack at an early age. Anyways, back to genetic potential. Knowing genetic potential can really keep many people from getting so disappointed with results and making unrealistic goals when starting to work out. Although genetic potential cannot be controlled naturally, it can be optimized. So herefs what a good training/nutrition plan would do for an average bodybuilder who bodybuilds regularly and correctly. After 4 or 5 years the genetic potential should be reached leaving the general possible weight gain of muscle to be 40-50 pounds over a lifetime (which is a lot of muscle weight). Year of Proper Training Potential Rate of Muscle Gain per Year 1 20-25 pounds (2 pounds per month) 2 10-12 pounds (1 pound per month) 3 5-6 pounds (0.5 pound per month) 4+ 2-3 pounds (not worth calculating) ¡This is a very general table and everyonefs different. The reason many people become discouraged after long periods of bodybuilding is because the results start to slow down the more and more the individual works out as shown by the chart above. Many other factors play a role with reaching your ggenetic potentialh such as age. ¡ So the way your specific genetic potential is configured is based on your wrists, ankles, height, and body fat percentage goal. ¡ So to do this: ¡1. measure the circumference of your ankle at the smallest point between the calf muscle and the ankle. ¡2. Measure the circumference around your wrist just below the bony lump on the outside of your wrist. ¡3. Measure your height without shoes on. ¡4. Finally, decide what would be your ideal body fat %. ¡So herefs the formula for genetic potential. The gWh stands for wrist circumference, the gAh for ankle circumference, the g%BFh for goal body fat, and the gHh for height without shoes.. Different body types may react slightly differently to the genetic potential formula. Extreme ectomorph body types may only get 95% of the formulafs predictions of genetic potential while endomorph and mesomorph body types may get 105% of the prediction of genetic potential. I hope you found this information be interesting and helpful rather than demotivating. I personally found learning about my own genetic potential to be very informative and Ifm hoping it did the same for you. I'm familiar with the bodytypes,but how about learning about the 20 rep squat program from top to bottom,when used the way it's supposed to be even an Ectomorph can gain lots of high quality muscle mass and strength. ;D Bodybuilding.com,been there done that long time ago I lurked and lurked and read and read but never posted and eventually formed the idea from observation that it is more like Confomistbuilding.com because they are so close minded that if for example you want a physique similar to Eugen Sandow,John Grimek,or any of those old timers,or if you follow an older style of training like was done in the 30's 40's or 50's,and you do not bow down on you're knees at the alter of the modern roid based bodybuilding physique you are bashed and ridiculed either into submission or you are negged and ridiculed until they have destroied you're credibility,and if piossible gotten you banned. Now like i said let us agree to disagree because it's a proven fact the mind plays a big part in the results you get from weights. yes gentics do as well,but as I said you can have the best genes in the world,and if you do not "Believe" in you're ability to get bigger and stronger,then the best genes,best program,diet etc etc is all for naught..you'll just be spinning you're wheels. So in that respect we are BOTH right!
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Post by Timotheus Prophet of Darkness on Nov 26, 2012 12:52:41 GMT -6
He looks legit,a lot of people get that result with a "properly" applied 20 rep squat program. Buuuuttt then again he could have used the old Bodybuilding magazine trick take photos when he's in good condition,then wait and drop muscle mass and then "WHAM-O" take new pics and call them the before photos. So on that one it's iffy!
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