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Post by sin on May 12, 2008 13:31:41 GMT -6
Why join the COC, or any organization for that matter? What is the driving force that compels you to join such organizations as the COC?
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Post by I AM the Way on May 12, 2008 13:47:07 GMT -6
thanks for posting this question, SIN.
she asked me why i had joined such organizations such as the CoS and ToS, finally starting my own. there's something intrinsically "non-joiner" about most people who come to LHP groups... so why do people still want to join anything at all?
obviously, i didn't wake up one day and decide to become a cult leader. no, i've been searching for the right kind of LHP community most of my adult life. couldn't find what i needed and knew that i must create such an organization!
everyone's answers will probably differ; i will post my own thoughts on the matter later... after giving other people a chance.
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Post by Madguten on May 12, 2008 17:18:13 GMT -6
The reason to join should come from withing, i can only say; join if you feel called to do so. (it kinda a "you can drag an ox to water but you cant make it drink" thing) I was looking for the cult when i found it. I had BEEN looking since i was a child. So that was that (for me). Only oneself can be the judge EDIT: The call, the call. He is howling like a mad hound. The touch of his dreams reach far and wide. Those who are not driven too insane by it, are shaped by it. Woe, to he who hears the howling. (please excuse my rant )
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Post by Yevathik on May 13, 2008 8:09:43 GMT -6
I think asking "why" implies there is any reason behind it. There is none....at first. Although as Madguten said it has a lot to do with The Call. I suppose it's a subconscious thing, a hidden part of the minds of some people that the CoC appeals to, and draws them in for reasons they don't understand, until they examine themselves enough and realize the answer.
Although if you mean why bother becoming a coherent group instead of staying as our individual parts, I'd say it's useful because it lets others recognize us as a whole, and also because it gives a sense that we're truly working towards the same end, just as every splintered "I" in our minds must one day do.
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Post by saxo on May 13, 2008 8:59:41 GMT -6
Humans cannot study and do others things all alone (I mean HUMANS, not Abdul Alhazred). So, its natural to a human search for company, cults or orders. Its good, because U can share thinkings together and do better thinks because Ur listening news ideas, Uno... I cant join in da CoC because my mom dont gimme da money (yeah,Im rly young. About 15-18, I dont like 2 say my true age ^^)
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Post by I AM the Way on May 13, 2008 10:45:43 GMT -6
i didn't even think of that, but you're right. this is also the Cthulhuian lobby.
yes, the official members who have joined the Cult are like the "I's" that desire to work. we are the magnetic center.
VS
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Post by sin on May 14, 2008 11:46:30 GMT -6
Although if you mean why bother becoming a coherent group instead of staying as our individual parts, I'd say it's useful because it lets others recognize us as a whole, and also because it gives a sense that we're truly working towards the same end, just as every splintered "I" in our minds must one day do. This is really what I'm getting at. Why the need for recognition? Why be part of the 'whole', and how is it useful? What is the 'same end'? How do you know the members of the group are all working towards the same end? Is it the basis for the mythos and therefore for the cult itself?
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Post by Dark Moose on May 30, 2008 22:31:08 GMT -6
I'm no cult leader but from my personal opinion, I can say that there is strength in numbers. Members can share knowledge and wisdom with other members as well as find what practices are more successful for others to assure others don't make the same mistakes as those before. Various other reasons exist, but they all depend on what you expect to gain from joining.
Hope that was helpful ;D
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Post by hiqconsoul on May 31, 2008 17:32:50 GMT -6
I'm no cult leader but from my personal opinion, I can say that there is strength in numbers. Members can share knowledge and wisdom with other members as well as find what practices are more successful for others to assure others don't make the same mistakes as those before. Various other reasons exist, but they all depend on what you expect to gain from joining. Hope that was helpful ;D Totally agree (And this is, yet another reason, why a one world government of tyranny, or any other sort probably, is completely idiotic on even more levels than one can immediately think of.. ) that () comment was completely off topic btw but.. geh ;D
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Post by Jordan on Aug 31, 2008 12:29:37 GMT -6
Come on Sin. People join cults/orders because they're human. We're social beasts. I mean doesn't it make sense for those who have been 'called' by The Old Ones/Cthulhu/etc. to come together vs. keeping to themselves about it? There is strength in numbers, and the idea of being apart of a cult like CoC excites me, because you can tell its a thriving order that hopefully *knocks on wood* learns from the mistakes that other organizations have made... i.e, CoS and it's sad stagnation. I'm still new to all this, but I'm glad there's a place like this for people to come together and learn. I'm all about the learning. =D
)ordan
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Post by I AM the Way on Aug 31, 2008 13:18:01 GMT -6
mistakes will undoubtedly be made, but hopefully they will be small and easily corrected.
VS
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Post by Jordan on Aug 31, 2008 14:25:14 GMT -6
But of course.
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Post by sin on Sept 2, 2008 9:43:26 GMT -6
Come on Sin. People join cults/orders because they're human. We're social beasts. I mean doesn't it make sense for those who have been 'called' by The Old Ones/Cthulhu/etc. to come together vs. keeping to themselves about it? There is strength in numbers, and the idea of being apart of a cult like CoC excites me, because you can tell its a thriving order that hopefully *knocks on wood* learns from the mistakes that other organizations have made... i.e, CoS and it's sad stagnation. I'm still new to all this, but I'm glad there's a place like this for people to come together and learn. I'm all about the learning. =D )ordan Come now Jordan, you know I study humans like insects and this line of questioning is in the nature of subjectivity and individual reasons people join organizations. Sometimes it's social, political, and sometimes people just don't know 'why' specifically. Probing questions such as this, places people in a position of examining their own choices and actions. Don't you agree?
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Post by Jordan on Sept 2, 2008 13:47:26 GMT -6
Indeed.
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Post by astennoth on Sept 4, 2008 3:04:58 GMT -6
I joined for several reasons, one of which was to pry knowledge from the minds of others to use in my own life. When I say pry I don't mean by force Another reason was for the unity in a belief that a Cult brings.
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Post by sin on Sept 4, 2008 9:17:08 GMT -6
I joined for several reasons, one of which was to pry knowledge from the minds of others to use in my own life. When I say pry I don't mean by force Another reason was for the unity in a belief that a Cult brings. I find that the most useful information comes from conversing with people, it gives you a chance to explore things you've read about or experienced.
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Post by I AM the Way on Sept 4, 2008 12:15:52 GMT -6
i understand what you mean; however, a certain amount of force is required. imbibing new ideas, making them your own, and implementing them in your life is no easy task. truly an act of Will.
VS
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Post by glade on Oct 28, 2008 8:20:28 GMT -6
I joined to be part of a group. Engage in, and learn from more learned minds and to discover what it is within me.
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Post by sol on Jan 18, 2009 22:57:19 GMT -6
the more i read the words of the high priest the better i feel about assisting. I am faithless. All stories are just that so other religions are weak. Now if we create stories to illustrate points 'myths' and such and strait up say 'THIS IS JUST A MAP' instead of saying 'no really that dude walked on water, made a pillar of fire etc' thats just a waste. the people that we draw here we hope are walking with stable footing.
I myself do not care if these monsters wake up in my life. I don't care what I get directly from them as a source, but the rituals formed and the social connection to others with similar ideals forms trust. A cult about ppl plagued with aliens and whatnot is filled with anything but mystics.
This idea of the old ones is broad. it is left mostly to us to make the images incarnate within ourselves and saturate our lives with it.
It is not popular and people that do not delve into it for a time, with patience will misinterpret it as something less complex and leave.
I have alien concepts that do not fit into this world, thus these old demons fit well into my concept of what should be. There is no 'evil' here that I can see, there is the cold and the real. the blatant primal truth
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Post by I AM the Way on Jan 19, 2009 0:08:23 GMT -6
wise words, Sol.
VS
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Post by Xor'Nefthrahm on Jan 19, 2009 12:37:03 GMT -6
I agree with you Sol. And with you VS, those are words of wisdom. I joined for the brotherhood, and so I can get in contact with and learn all that I can from people like VS, Madgutten, Sin, Sol and others like them. Learn from them to learn better techniques to learn about myself, and unlock the secrets of what we really are. I like that we stand for somethings that others don't have the guts to face, and one of them is Truth.
IA Cult of Cthulhu!
-Brother Esbara'kesh, Herald of the Old Gods.
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Post by sin on Jan 20, 2009 9:23:58 GMT -6
I like that we stand for somethings that others don't have the guts to face, and one of them is Truth. I believe that it's realizing that truth is highly subjective. Breaking down walls of false realities, a false sense of security even - and speaking our personal truths. It won't always be well-received, and those that can embrace that, are the cultists.
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Post by glade on Jan 30, 2009 23:15:10 GMT -6
If I'm not received I shake it off and proceed on. The others will have their day. I enjoy the people here. One thing I need to do is mail in my dues. I've been errant there.
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Post by Draelloathe on Mar 14, 2009 13:23:24 GMT -6
The reason I plan on joining is the sense of community, and also (as has been said) the forboding from stagnation. I've been sheltered these past 6 years from my NDE. And, have bridged worlds, planes, and gods. I've come to realize it doesn't matter what you call it. They are symbols in your mind, and that when it comes down to it that's what matters.
For me, it's simply being free. And, more importantly not siding with the pacifists simply because you're afraid of a little blood, and are squeemish.
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Post by sin on Mar 16, 2009 8:29:36 GMT -6
I joined to be part of a group. Engage in, and learn from more learned minds and to discover what it is within me. A more social connection, with an agenda for obtaining knowledge through those social interactions. ;D
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Post by Yahn'ikthorn on Apr 2, 2009 23:21:31 GMT -6
I joined because I stumbled pretty randomly on Cthulhu Cult in a huge pile of books and decided to check out the website/community. Haven't found any good reasons to NOT be here yet. Tried, though!
And this really is the loveliest smartest prettiest bestest internet community ever.
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Post by Madguten on Apr 3, 2009 11:39:03 GMT -6
and slimiest, you forgot the slime, lol ;D
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Post by jmsn72 on Apr 3, 2009 18:05:10 GMT -6
I have not joined as of yet and to some degree don't truly plan on.Although I am impressed by the open mindedness, occult aspects and enjoy the literature,I find little more that one would not find from any other cult or group for that matter.
I suppose many will join because the philosophy fits them to which I say kudos.I however still find inconsistencies and will consistently prod until they are addressed or until I am satisfied.I suppose in a way you may call me the ultimate outsider or he who keeps his distance yet still nudges from time to time.The forum is great,don't get me wrong and it is as much of a joy refuting ideas as it is agreeing, however my niche is neither here or anywhere I suppose.
However, if you feel it is for you,I feel you should join.I never intended this post to be a deterrent from joining.Rather the opposite, if you find your place here I'm happy for you.The people here are cool folks and the high priest is pretty cool too.
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Post by whatsupable on May 21, 2009 9:33:46 GMT -6
i am thinking about joining, the mane reson is to learn more and try to get more awaik. but what must be done to join all i know is anser the questions and some money
but the thing is i am not so long into this things and getting that kinda books is hard because some are illagal here.
really stuppid here drugs or no problem but some books forbiden
hope to hear from you
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Post by I AM the Way on May 21, 2009 9:48:33 GMT -6
there is no longer a membership fee. i removed the money aspect from the equation because i didn't want to create an impediment to learning about our Cthulhu Cult. here is the membership information page:www.cultofcthulhu.net/I-am-the-way-cthulhu1a.htmluckily, both books of our bible are available as free PDFs. the 21st century allows Left Hand Path practitioners to send and receive forbidden lore without restriction.
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