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Post by edorion on Mar 18, 2017 15:32:50 GMT -6
I have heard mention of the Cult of Cthulu before but didn't realize it was actually a real cult with real ideas concerning existence and reality. I'll try to refrain from noob forum etiquette and not expect a full explanation in one post without doing some reading and research first. But perhaps a few basic questions will prove harmless. Do Cthulu cultists believe in real deities? See, I have been doing a lot of searching and reading on Satanism. I can't seem to find any organization/religion that worships Satan as a real existing Deity. This seems so weird to me. The reason I mention this is because I choose to believe that there must be entities which exist who are able to create, destroy, and manipulate our reality. Whether these entities should be worshipped or whether or not we can form a real relationship with them, I don't know. I like to think we can. Anyway, I'm basically still trapped in a state of wondering and confusion. Maybe the Cult of Cthulu is where I belong. I honestly have no idea. But here I am so, maybe I can find something to believe.
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Post by Beast Xeno on Mar 19, 2017 15:29:39 GMT -6
I have heard mention of the Cult of Cthulu before but didn't realize it was actually a real cult with real ideas concerning existence and reality. I'll try to refrain from noob forum etiquette and not expect a full explanation in one post without doing some reading and research first. But perhaps a few basic questions will prove harmless. Do Cthulu cultists believe in real deities? See, I have been doing a lot of searching and reading on Satanism. I can't seem to find any organization/religion that worships Satan as a real existing Deity. This seems so weird to me. The reason I mention this is because I choose to believe that there must be entities which exist who are able to create, destroy, and manipulate our reality. Whether these entities should be worshipped or whether or not we can form a real relationship with them, I don't know. I like to think we can. Anyway, I'm basically still trapped in a state of wondering and confusion. Maybe the Cult of Cthulu is where I belong. I honestly have no idea. But here I am so, maybe I can find something to believe. Greetings! Welcome to a place where fact & fiction can blend and blur to the point of no distinction without contradiction. It really doesn't matter if you choose to view deities as archetypal or literal; so long as your end goal is the same. Personally I would encourage exploration from both perspectives. My personal perspective rests in a superposition, I believe there are real cosmic forces in play that 'man', is far too primitive to rationally comprehend. Those forces (I refer to them as the Ancient Ones, A:O for short) "create, destroy, and manipulate" without concern for our insignificant existence. We recognize aspects (traits) within the A:O, and we might call it "Cthulhu/Azathoth/Satan". The truth is, like Saturn or Alpha Centauri, what we call it is probably not what it recognizes itself as; that is if it recognizes itself at all. The use of the search feature here will be your friend. I won't hold your hand here, but I don't mind providing clarification from time to time. I know there is a great deal to digest here. Hope that helps a little! -BX
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Post by edorion on Mar 21, 2017 23:38:07 GMT -6
Thanks for the reply. I will indeed read over the forum.
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Post by edorion on Mar 22, 2017 0:26:32 GMT -6
I have done a little more reading and I must say that I am utterly confused. At times I think I'm beginning to grasp what this cult believes. At other times I feel I actually have no clue. Are y'all saying that what we perceive as reality is in fact mere illusion? If so, I can relate to that. But is there a reality that is not illusion? Do we "exist" there? Where is "there"? Is it our goal to become aware of that reality by shedding the illusions of this reality? Or is any reality real? It can't all be illusion, can it? Surely something is real? By accepting our existence as illusion, can we then manipulate the illusion with a higher degree of control? Pain, suffering, death..... real or imagined? Time? I am aware of myself. So I exist. Right?
Here is where I am: I have struggled to identify with religion; with purpose and direction. Through blind clicking and searching online, I have landed here, on this site. Maybe by accident. Maybe by mistake. Or maybe I'm exactly where I'm supposed to be. I just don't know where " here" is.
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Post by Beast Xeno on Mar 23, 2017 14:48:33 GMT -6
I have done a little more reading and I must say that I am utterly confused. At times I think I'm beginning to grasp what this cult believes. At other times I feel I actually have no clue. Are y'all saying that what we perceive as reality is in fact mere illusion? If so, I can relate to that. But is there a reality that is not illusion? Do we "exist" there? Where is "there"? Is it our goal to become aware of that reality by shedding the illusions of this reality? Or is any reality real? It can't all be illusion, can it? Surely something is real? By accepting our existence as illusion, can we then manipulate the illusion with a higher degree of control? Pain, suffering, death..... real or imagined? Time? I am aware of myself. So I exist. Right? Here is where I am: I have struggled to identify with religion; with purpose and direction. Through blind clicking and searching online, I have landed here, on this site. Maybe by accident. Maybe by mistake. Or maybe I'm exactly where I'm supposed to be. I just don't know where " here" is. I think it goes a little beyond being a simple illusion. This seems to be something that is better described as a facade. Our reality is filtered not only through our senses, but through a myriad of other artificial constructs and natural occurrences. Some basic examples are things like gender, height, weight, eye color, and comprehension abilities. There are also slightly more complex things like social status, religion, and sexual orientation. All of these things and so much more, contribute to your personally crafted reality. A tailored facade, a homebrewed illusionment. There does also seem to be something of a shared reality, complete with purportedly ineffable constants. Let's just called them the "Laws". Laws can be bent and they can be broken. It is just a matter of ability, discipline, ingenuity, and knowledge. However until you figure out how to bend or break those laws; you are bound to them, and their consequences. Some of your questions, I think only you can answer. Do we exist? I think we do, what do you think? If you could manipulate reality, in what way would you? I'm going to have to create a part two to this reply, because I'm very short on time today. In the meantime check out the " Directory of Awesome Posts" ; maybe you can find more answers there. -BX
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Post by edorion on Mar 23, 2017 19:14:59 GMT -6
I believe I exist. Though I suppose it's completely possible that even my self awareness could be artificial. In a circular way I suppose it's nearly impossible to define existence. Meaning that I can only use words and knowledge that I currently possess. So I think I'm self aware based on my limited knowledge. Perhaps I'm "programmed" to believe that self awareness equates to existence. This would be a neat and tidy way to discourage me from considering the possibility that I am in fact NOT self aware at all. Perhaps this is a mental loop that can be exited in some way. Perhaps only in death. But then what? One possibility is that I do exist in another place outside this reality and I will simply wake up to a "truer" reality. Of course that reality could be just another of many embedded realities. Failsafes if u will. Redundant recursive loops. The other possibility is that this current reality is the only one in which I exist. If this is the case, then by stepping out of the loop I cease to exist. If I were able to manipulate the laws of this reality I'm not sure what I would do. Because upon the realization of that ability, I believe all my current beliefs and morals and codes of ethics would be turned upside down. Things that were once important may become utterly insignificant. Happiness, wealth, health, physical appearance, etc. Would these things still hold weight after becoming fully aware that this reality is false? I don't know. I can't know. I'll ponder these things a while and get back to u. Thanks.
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Post by edorion on Mar 23, 2017 22:33:24 GMT -6
Much like how a person who has never been to the beach sees beautiful beaches in magazines and on television and thinks to himself that he would give anything to live on a beach, then one day he buys some beach front property, only to realize now that he has the ability to live on the beach, he no longer really wants to. What once seemed so important to him now holds little sway. This is how I feel about what I would alter if I had the ability to alter reality. I suppose ,in terms of my reality, there are the obvious comforts: health, appearance, financial stability, love, general sense of well-being. Basically I would like to have my physical life in such an order that I could devote more of my time and energy to inner growth. Right now I'm just caught up in the rat race of basic survival.
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Post by edorion on Mar 31, 2017 19:42:10 GMT -6
Well this appears to be a dead cult. Some of the stuff I read sounded promising but idk. If this is the official forum the cult, things don't look good. I will resume my search for a an active cult that feels right.
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