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Post by wyntre on Aug 23, 2016 11:58:50 GMT -6
Loyal followers in the way of Cthulhu. It would seem you are the last true vestiges of this Cult. There is no longer a central gathering point or purveyor of information for the uninitiated. While this is good for weaning out the unworthy and thrill chasers among us, a portal for followers is still needed. The Great Work still needs to be done. I - Wyntre - and a brotherhood of followers - including Priests of this very forum - have endeavoured together to create a new Headquarters of information and initiation for those still loyal to the Work, and to those who which to attain Ascension. It is a portal for the Chosen, a Temple where we can all gather and revel in the teachings of The Cult Of Cthulhu. I understand that some of you may wish to cling to the remnants of the old ways, but I urge you to see through the mists of the dust of the past and see that all Great Empires are borne of assimilation from the old to new. Those who are truly Chosen will hear The Calling. I urge you to listen to the Priests of your old ways when they affirm my statements here. This forum - and perhaps, too, the teachings of your old leaders - lie in ruin. Cthulhu does not. The Great Old One slumbers and waits. Join us in the new portal of The Cult Of Cthulhu. www.wyntre.wix.com/thecultofcthulhu
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2016 2:26:09 GMT -6
Fellow readers and members,
Venger Satanis created cultofcthulhu.net, this forum, and kept them working for some years offering to many impressionable opportunities and knowledge. I vastly benefited and for this I will always be grateful.
And then he abandoned us without a word more than two years ago, the sites he created are now deleted and the activity of this forum is near zero.
Now is time to conclude and to act. To all of those interested by self-improvement and by the secrets of the universe, let us take a new beginning ! I am joining Wyntre to continue the Work.
The Cult of Cthulhu shall never die !
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Post by shawnhartnell on Aug 30, 2016 7:02:20 GMT -6
Enjoy.
Personally, I'm a bit suspicious when a noob claims to take over.
Regardless, I wish you the best of luck in your "new" Cult of Cthulhu. But, you know, there are others out there. You may want to try those first. Just sayin'.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2016 7:53:32 GMT -6
What do we have to lose ?
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Post by shawnhartnell on Aug 30, 2016 11:39:08 GMT -6
Erm. For me, self-respect?
OK, Wyntre, let's see if you're qualified in the slightest.
Answer these questions. They do have answers but none you can copy and paste. There will be follow up questions.
1. What is reality?
2. What are you?
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Post by shawnhartnell on Aug 30, 2016 11:41:28 GMT -6
3. Why shouldn't you spam this forum like you did?
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Post by shawnhartnell on Aug 30, 2016 13:25:18 GMT -6
Let's do a quick analysis, and see what's actually being said here. Loyal. Hmm. Followers. The last time I checked we were outsiders and non-joiners. Someone's barking up the wrong tree here. The way of Cthulhu? Ever hear of the Fourth? True. Heh. Sorry bub, here there is no "true believer bullshit." Sorry. We abhor easy answers. Who said that's what the Cult was? Actually, one of the more difficult parts of speaking about the Cult paradigm is talking about it with someone who doesn't already get it. Unworthy: By who's standards? lol Thrill chasers: I resent that. Portal for followers: Follow me, he says! Pffft, Someone seems to have missed that the "Great Work" is overall a solo activity. "I, Wyntre, the internet savior who have cometh to you!" This isn't high school. Appeal to popularity means nothing. Besides, given the general inactivity, I seriously doubt the "brotherhood" of --- FOLLOWERS -- (jesus fuckin' himself! what's with this guy) exists. Secondly, the use of "brotherhood" is a great example of someone co-opting the language not knowing what it means. Thirdly, this guy spammed every forum with this message with the intent of turning this forum into a recruitment tool for his "new" cult. What a dick move. Headquarters: Um hmm. See wannabe LHP leader above. Those still loyal to the work: Someone just don't get it. Attain Ascension: Whoops. There's that co-opting language without understanding again. For the chosen: Whew. There is no chosen. There's effort. Revel: Are you finding this suspiciously as annoying as me? I understand: I'm waiting for evidence of that understanding. Don't get me wrong, demonstrate you know what you're talking about rather than a bullshit spiel like this and I'll fully bless your project as the acting SHITHEAD. I urge you to be aware of yourself and your imagination as you read this line. Falling for this shit demonstrates a distinct lack of self-awareness. But hey, what does a hypnotist know? Someone's been reading our forum and being manipulative as fuck. Those who are "truly" self-aware will get what I'm saying. Or at least, those with a memory larger than a goldfish. I'm not affirming shit yet. Asshole, LOL Whatever. So what we have here is a wannabe leader who doesn't understand the paradigm who's decided to take the inactivity to be his cue to use it as a recruitment drive. Hey, who doesn't want to be "chosen"? Er. Yeah. K. Again, I wish you the best of luck in doing what about half the LHP noobs do. Again, if you demonstrate UNDERSTANDING of what the Cult is about, sure, I'll endorse you, but all this crap is just this: "follow me, followers! I choose you like pikachu!" Whoopie. I hope it's clear what I meant by "self-respect" now.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2016 0:20:15 GMT -6
Take it easy, shawnhartnell. Looks like you're angry... There is little left here, we are somewhat the last two standing and there were no valuable discussion here for months if not years. That is what we have. This forum and this Cult is inactive, and since a long time. Denying the reality is not the way to deal with it if you want to debate about the reality.
I don't know so much about Wyntre and his followers, but give him a chance. He is trying something at the very last ! And we ? We are waiting and doing nothing !
Please shawnhartnell delete your last answer it is not nice, and often not true.
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Post by shawnhartnell on Aug 31, 2016 3:35:14 GMT -6
How is it not true?
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Post by shawnhartnell on Aug 31, 2016 15:14:27 GMT -6
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Post by wren on Aug 31, 2016 17:23:47 GMT -6
I first joined the Cult while it was still at a high point in its activity. I remember the deep and open discussions about the Work and the goals of the Cult. I'm sad to see it's come to this level of disarray.
Shawn I would appreciate it if you left your comment but that is your choice. As someone who doesn't interact here within the last threads of the Cult I may not have much sway but it angers me that someone can come here and claim to be our Cults "savior" without and evidence to say so.
One of the chief principles of the Work is that it is passed down from a Master. Otherwise it is false ideas from an ordinary mind.
Who taught you Wintre?
And to hear from our previous priests would be something to rejoice to.
Who are the priests and why are they not here to speak for themselves?
To "save" the last threads of this cult requires a Master as well, as Venger was once ours. The whole of the Cult was always his vision of the Work entwined within the slimey tentacles of Cthulhu with a focus on the LHP.
How can you prove your mastery to me? If you are saving our Cult you most know upon which it is based. Tell me, what is the meaning of our cult?
Upon viewing your site I notice a lack of any interaction or deep discussions. While out may have potential I see none yet and this am unconvinced you aren't seeking a following for your own ego.
Prove me wrong.
Joining someone who is just as bad as no leader is a death sentence to out Cult. We are independent as we were with a teacher. I certainly wouldn't want to see us crushed to dust so... Pathetically.
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Post by shawnhartnell on Aug 31, 2016 22:34:52 GMT -6
Shawn I would appreciate it if you left your comment but that is your choice. As someone who doesn't interact here within the last threads of the Cult I may not have much sway... That so happens to be the exact choice I have made. BTW, you will address me as SHITHEAD, but that's your choice. Sway? Well, I think it's entirely probable that you're more respected and some of us are happier to see you when you do show up than you probably know. I remember the deep and open discussions about the Work and the goals of the Cult. For shits and giggles, let's apply something you said to Wyntre to myself and VS. Ready for this? (BTW, I appreciate everything else you wrote. Thanks. With that said...) One of the chief principles of the Work is that it is passed down from a Master. Otherwise it is false ideas from an ordinary mind. Who taught you Wintre? Well, dammit. By this standard, I'm equally as unqualified as Wyntre. And as far as I know, VS would be equally as unqualified. Both of us, to my knowledge, are self-taught. We've learned what we have out of curiosity, necessity, and quite a lot of the time – for no other reason than we dig it. VS's formal training is in language (no surprise there) as an English major (sometimes I think he missed his calling as the coolest English teacher EVER! But, I digress...) My formal training is... I have no formal training. In both cases, I'm not aware of any Fourth Way “master” who taught either of us. So, I can say quite authoritatively that if what you say is true, then as acting SHITHEAD of the Cult, then I'm a total fraud. I don't know VS's entire life story – he has done quite a bit of stuff and learned from a lot of people, but I'm unaware of him ever training under a Fourth Way “master.” If that's true (and honestly I can't say it as an absolute, I can only state it as a reasonable assumption), then then entire Cult has been a fraud. This, of course, assumes that the Cult slavishly follows the Fourth Way and is nothing more than a “franchise school” of the Fourth Way. Fortunately, the Cult has it's own distinct flavor, and is it's own “thing” entirely independent of the Fourth Way. Don't get me wrong – The Cult Paradigm is informed by the Fourth Way, as it's informed by Satanism, as by Chaos Magic, as by Psychology, as by Jung, as by many different things, and last but not least the works of Lovecraft. Frankly, while the Cult Paradigm does have a central core, and an understanding to be grasped and explored, that core comes from throwing all those things I just listed above into a pot and stirring it under high heat and letting the related elements of all those things combine and condense. Or, as you say: The whole of the Cult was always his vision of the Work entwined within the slimey tentacles of Cthulhu with a focus on the LHP. Close enough. Alas, I've gotten off topic. TL:DR If Wyntre understands the Cult paradigm (which I'm skeptical, if you look over his previous posts here), then that's enough to not write him off as an TOTAL ego-hound, IMHO. At least he'd have some merit. (And thus, have proven me wrong. ) BTW, I'm going to start a thread based on the above quote about needing a master for open discussion. I've skipped over some things that I'll bring up in that thread. ^ THIS
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Post by wyntre on Sept 2, 2016 2:12:34 GMT -6
Before I begin with my response I’d first like to thank you shawnhartnell. Whether you choose to help lead the way to the new portal or not, you have proved beyond doubt your worthiness to the cosmos. Question everything.
I have no status here, I MUST be questioned, otherwise we are no better than pseudo-Judean religions made up of the blind flowing the blind. Thank you for showing everyone the independence it takes to be a member of the Cult.
To answer the questions put to me I must first start with making something as abundantly clear as I can; I am NOT a saviour. I do not claim to be and I do not pretend to be, and I certainly would not find it fitting to title myself with the tagline “I AM the way” - with respect to Vengar. No single person among us is “the way”. Cthulhu is the way. That is all.
We are headed by the title “cult” but in no way, in regard to the social and psychological understanding of the phrase, are we a cult. We do not follow blindly. You have shown that, I think, in your questioning of me shawn.
I am here to help spearhead a movement, because frankly, as Yrreheit has rightly said, the collective remnants of this branch of the cult are waiting and doing nothing. Vengar Satanis had the vision to make a movement that has ALWAYS been around - he simply offered a way for the new and uninitiated to grasp it’s concepts. For that he has undying merit. But he has gone. As harsh as it may be to hear this movement’s pinnacle moment was an online forum. And that forum now lies in ruin. It is time - I believe - to keep moving forward. We mustn’t be afraid to dream a little bigger.
I must be candid and state my resentment for the comparison to The New Church Of Satan - an obvious cash grab. I started my beliefs as a Satanist after my Christian apostasy and Lavey’s works, in my mind, cannot be contested. With that we segue into my next point; Vengar Satanis did not create the Cult Of Cthulhu. He helped unify those that felt the calling and establish legitimacy to the cause but the Cult Of Cthulhu predates him. It predates me, it predates our grandfathers and theirs. I am not trying to take over, I am trying to push forward.
You question me on reality. I would assume that you, of all people, understand the magnitude of that question. To answer here would take a lifetime, as it takes a lifetime to understand. Reality is perceptive, it is encompassed by the viewer of said reality and is thus controlled by that viewer. Whether you choose to believe the archaic concept of reality in relation to the Old Ones or the metaphorical connotation they represent is entirely up to you, the underlying truth is that reality is subjective - it is individual and for that individual to control.
What am I? I am NOT "the way" (I’m sure, leading to disagreement, you will quote this next). I am a dot in the cosmic spectrum with no meaning at all to the cosmos at large - as are all of us. But I am also the god of my own reality - as are all of us. We need only learn that.
The point of the practice is Ascension. The attainment of personal perfection through practice of the fourth way and any other means necessary. Granted, my belief system will differ here and there from Vengar Satanis' but I suppose this is my point: Did you follow the Cult of Cthulhu or Vengar Satanis? (I note your resentment for the word “follow” - let’s not get caught up on semantics here. We follow, we lead, the point is my point. Anyone who has really heard the calling knows that we do not follow. We’re passed the point of having to watch our words so carefully, political correctness in The Cult Of Cthulhu? C’mon.)
The Cult is bigger than any of us, and we all have something to contribute to the teaching of one another. It is not a dictatorship. We practice the teachings of HPL and The Old Ones because there is cosmic truth in the stories, and through that we can attain Ascension.
Shawn… SHITHEAD (actually dig it) … I’m not asking you to “follow” me. I made an umbrella paragraph for people to understand the message: “THE CULT CAN - AND WILL - LIVE ON”. If you really want I can pick out every single quote that you made and respond in kind (aggressive as fuck) as you did me, which I am happy to do, but I’m putting that down to conviction in your beliefs and weariness of charlatans. Which I salute you for. Whether you choose to give me the option to have a private conversation with you - Skype would be perfect - so we can discuss this in length or to simply stay here and denote me for everyone to hear is absolutely up to you.
The new cult will continue regardless. You can be a part of it and help in the growth or not. Frankly I would like for you to be a part of it. Let’s have a chat.
P.S I shouldn’t have spammed the forum the way I did. Point made, point received. Spreading the message was my only concern and, fallible as I am, it got the better of me. Thank you for allowing this thread to remain.
Thierry - thank you. Our lengthily conversations and your actions here, as ever, prove your conviction. Ia Cthulhu
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Post by wyntre on Sept 2, 2016 2:14:29 GMT -6
WREN: I hope you have followed my (tediously long) reply because I would like to respond to you personally now. I am sure that when you use the word “Master” you do not use it literally. No follower of the Cult has masters. I was taught by myself through self-exploration, self-teaching and self-enlightenment as well as the practitioners around me.
Where Shawn and myself agree completely is that the Cult is an amalgamation of concepts derived from all self-enlightened teachers from years passed, collecting the valid and using it to attain Ascension.
As I have stated I do no pretend to be the saviour of this Cult. I’m sure most of you know that this forum is not the only branching of The Cult Of Cthulhu (how could it be? The idea of Cthulhu strecthes across continents and did so before Vengar Satanis came along). As I said to Thierry (you know him as Yrreht, the priest that vouches for me I mentioned in my first comment) my teachings and Cult have always resided in reality. I have a life story that I won’t share with you here (though I am happy to with anyone that contacts me personally). It is now that I realise the transition must be made to the online world. I came here expecting to find a movement - I was too late. So I am calling for everyone to band together and build it again anew. That is my purpose. I have much to share as I am sure all of you do too. The Cult is a collective will - so let’s collect it.
And yes, the website lacks much. Notice the positions for members under “Work” and the “beta” tag. It is new and it is fragile, made solely by me. Together it can be much, much more.
My only goal is the continuance of The Work (COLLECTIVELY - no matter what Shawn may have to say about solo missions) and the continuing prospering of the Cult.
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Post by wyntre on Sept 2, 2016 3:12:54 GMT -6
Also Shawn I'm curious about your opinion on the new portal. What do you think of it? Contact me, I'd love to discuss.
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Post by shawnhartnell on Sept 2, 2016 12:36:43 GMT -6
Wyntre: Too much flash.
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Post by shawnhartnell on Sept 2, 2016 13:10:55 GMT -6
Wyntre, You may have your own CoC, if you must. However, it won't replace this one, nor will I grant even the slightest pretense of it. Even so, I may even stop by and be a thorn in your side every now and then. Expect it. I have three recommendations for you: 1. The way you're using Flash - as navigation - may look all cool and shit to you, and some other people, too, but you've essentially made the doorknob to your site invisible for a significant number of others. Flash is a dead platform slowly being erased from the web in favor of HTML 5. 2. Use wikidot.com as your host. At one time I was head admin over the whole shebang and user interface between the Devs, the admin team, and the general public. I can't express how awesome the software is for building a community of practice. I'm fairly competent in everything about it and my email is shawn.hartell@gmail.com should you use it and need help or have questions about the software. Don't ask me to do content. Here's a simple example: cultofcthulhu.wikidot.com/3. I think you can create a variation of the Cult more individated and unique than merely "new & improved" or "shiny". 4. Stop having behind the scenes conversations as the rule and make them the exception. Personally, I'd rather you stick around here but have it your way. You have been found worthy to found your own CoC, but not to be a dick and use this one as fertilizer. I hereby grant you the official and honorable title of SHITHEAD Wyntre Ka-PLOW MotherFucker. THE GRAND HIGH TOTAL SHITHEAD HAS SPOKEN!
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Post by wyntre on Sept 3, 2016 5:02:42 GMT -6
Thank you Shawn. I hope to see more of you - your conviction is obvious, we need a thousand more like you. Though we may differ the Work remains the same. For anyone who remains interested: Join us and attain Ascension. www.wyntre.wix.com/TheCultOfCthulhuIa Cthulhu Wyntre
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Post by Beast Xeno on Nov 19, 2016 12:10:54 GMT -6
I first joined the Cult while it was still at a high point in its activity. I remember the deep and open discussions about the Work and the goals of the Cult. I'm sad to see it's come to this level of disarray. Shawn I would appreciate it if you left your comment but that is your choice. As someone who doesn't interact here within the last threads of the Cult I may not have much sway but it angers me that someone can come here and claim to be our Cults "savior" without and evidence to say so. One of the chief principles of the Work is that it is passed down from a Master. Otherwise it is false ideas from an ordinary mind. Who taught you Wintre? And to hear from our previous priests would be something to rejoice to. Who are the priests and why are they not here to speak for themselves? To "save" the last threads of this cult requires a Master as well, as Venger was once ours. The whole of the Cult was always his vision of the Work entwined within the slimey tentacles of Cthulhu with a focus on the LHP. How can you prove your mastery to me? If you are saving our Cult you most know upon which it is based. Tell me, what is the meaning of our cult? Upon viewing your site I notice a lack of any interaction or deep discussions. While out may have potential I see none yet and this am unconvinced you aren't seeking a following for your own ego. Prove me wrong. Joining someone who is just as bad as no leader is a death sentence to out Cult. We are independent as we were with a teacher. I certainly wouldn't want to see us crushed to dust so... Pathetically. Wren, Do not fret. Your observations are both on mark and well received. Upon viewing this site myself, I have found it to be an almost blatant knock-off of Darrick's Cult of Cthulhu. There is nothing new or of interest there. Just some boys wishing for some imaginary title and undeserved admiration. In fact, all I see is a hypocritical lip-service to fragile egos, they claim to control. This Cult of Cthulhu shall never die... Even should one that's worthy also rise. That however has not happened yet.
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Post by Mara'Almara on Nov 28, 2016 20:38:22 GMT -6
Hails.
The waves, or movements, of the currents can not easily be controlled, if at all. If one can manage to steer ones own path within and through them, one is a masterly wanderer.
Many people strongly wanted, and tried, to stay here and keep up the energies, but the currents pulled elsewhere. It is not that people could not had stayed, it is rather that they would had strayed from their true paths, had they done so. This however, makes the silence of these emerald halls echo with a sound joy. For many of those who went, did so to be true to themselves and their selves, and to continue on with their path. Everything comes in waves.
What took place here in the former decade was all things that were in the waves currents. For the majority of the steady contributors here, there was a connection and a draw that drew so strong it was impossible to stay away.
If one is to look at it first in a mundane fashion, and count in the changes in the worldly surroundings, the fast and wide global spread and development of computers and the internet, fundamentally changed the circumstances and possibilities of human communication. One must appreciate that this was the first time in known/acknowledged earthly history that it has been possible to communicate globally in such a fast, easy and available way. The internet had been around, but around 2005 everyone began having it. People who had before been confined to their immediate surroundings could now see, read, and interact with things in the whole world that they took an interest in.
When we initially met here, (around 2007-2010) many of us were riding that first wave of world-expanding amazement and stimulation. From different and unknown similarities we were all drawn here. Called.
The discourse here may sound cheesy, but there is no more fitting words than "drawn" or "called", perhaps with the exception of "summoned". All energies , concepts, and patterns that the cult here represents, already manifests naturally in everything. People were drawn before it, and will be drawn after it. It is limitless and regardless. But at that moment in time, we were all boosted off at the same time from all over the world, and naturally met up here by way of the waves.
A less mundane perception on it, is that other things that had nothing to do with the spread of the internet, or the availability of computers, also played in. Most of us were not introduced to neither the concepts explored here, nor the mythos of H.P. Lovecraft through ways of the world wide web. At least not the digital one. There were so many things being experienced, by individuals from all corners of the globe. Things in dreams and in the surroundings. So many coincidents that occurred in ways and at times where they felt more like "coincidents" than coincidents. When viewed widely, from afar, they formed a strong web that was already weaved when this forum was created, and we all naturally ended up here. Dreams and madness brought us here. Some who came here were strangers to the writings of H.P Lovecraft, but not at all to the concepts mirrored in the writings. The writings are horror stories, but there are perspectives within them not unfitting of the things they describe. This can be seen from the perspective that H.P. Lovecraft was, as we all are, steered to a degree by active consciousness, but also to another (perhaps vastly larger) degree by the subconscious. Around ones own knowledge. This perspective would hold that he was sensitive and effected. As most people who came here were.
Many to a degree where it plagued them.
But about the participation here in the last years. The stars are always right, but we are beings who seek to surf the waves, the waves of the currents do not move at a set flow or tempo. They are wild, move fluently, and shift. When one tries to regain the “glory” of a “golden æra”, one faces the danger of trying to go back. This can be like trying to swim against the currents. Let it not be said, that no practicing magician can not do so, for that would be to close doors bound to blow open. But it drains an individual. Usually it will not be overcome.
If we try to force rituals which are not in the currents, it will usually not help us steer on our true path. This pertains to the general, as anything is possible and all is permitted in the grand whole. But the general is what we are generally stuck with.
I hope you will excuse the rant. I have since 2010 felt that there will be a wave peaking around 2018-2020. But if it will be here, I am not to say. The currents will tell, with time.
A very big part of humanity is under a very powerful spell right now. One can again look at this in a mundane and a less mundane way, but I rest my case. This writ must cease at some point. I just felt drawn towards coming here. I shall be a guest in your halls if you permit.
I am a humble worm. I tunnel the soil beneath the surface. I have come forth to claim the light.
IA! IA! KTULU FTAGN!
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Post by Beast Xeno on Nov 28, 2016 21:25:43 GMT -6
Permit?? Fellow Traveller, you're most welcomed. Most of what you've said, I wholly concur with. Some to an eerie congruence. There is resonance with my own personal philosophies to a degree that leaves me suspicious. You will find here, I have not yet begun my Work. I personally have a vision for that 2018-2020 peak, though I would refer to it as a shock. I think it is a better fit. I have always fancied the use of current to describe the ebbs and flows of the meta-conscience, but lately the term wave is beginning to reinvigorate my core-self. Perhaps that is because of a recent conversation I took part in. we were strolling down memorylane to a time in which I was experimenting with frequency induced self hypnosis. The aim was to channel some measurable change through the use of frequencies in ritual format. Anyway this has been freshly on my mind since.
I've rambled far off of the welcome I wished to extend to you. I think you've come at the right time, and you're in the right place. So tell me... more specifically, what is it you hope to impart or gain in your stay? Also... Have we met, prior?
Actually I know you... I just mentioned you in the same conversation I was recalling above. I always loved your masks and rituals. Madguten. You should once again be a WoTD... I say that as if you ever were not one. lol! This pleases me greatly.
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Post by Mara'Almara on Nov 29, 2016 15:39:49 GMT -6
Thank you for the welcome, and long time no see :-)
I apologize for skipping the introduction section. My purpose here is to interact when i feel drawn. I was so joyed to feel drawn that i made a profile and started writing without hesitation.
Aye, the resonance. The experience of resonance is what woke or shook many of us up. Not only between ourselves and the texts, and between each other, but also between us all and the all. From world events to life events.
I have never went a long time without thinking about the group, the work within the group, and the forum. But only when i act upon currents that feel true, can i feel the jolt which tells me that i am not astray from the path i hope for. I have been occupied with paths.
The dark days of the yule are befalling us here. This time of the year has for as long as i have recorded my actions, been a peak on some level for me, in terms of rite and currents. High summer is also.
I pick up and act upon inituition. Very seldom, if ever, do i PLAN to do something a certain way, instead i have been trained since birth to pick up things and act automatically in any moment, while simuntaniously observing what i do and seeking to be conscious about it, so that i may study the mechanics and patterns of it and through that, know more of myself. I observe WHAT to seek contact to WHY. They are eachother familiar, but i must pass through WHAT to know WHY.
And my inituition is not boring nor hopeless, so i have the possibility of faring well through this method.
A few months back i, by impulse and by chance of the currents, retook contact with Cora'Sahn, (another member of the old æra) after years of having none. Not long after, a Cthulhu current themed video i made a couple of years back, as a backdrop for a dark ambient live ritual artist, was released online. I did not really pay it much mind until today. I have since 2009 expected a wave to hit one more time around on the ten year mark approximately. Now the time is neigh, and it FEELS like stuff is going on. It would not surprise me to see other old members here. If I have felt drawn, then perhaps they have as well. Be it mundane or unmundane reasons.
However, many long stories short, i have in the last couple of weeks felt drawn to energies, contributing it to the dark days of the yule peak approaching. I have never been the type to check for dates or to throw rites upon the world simply to strike at a specific time according to a calender. At least not much. Things just occur naturally, or from other levels of consciousness than the immediate active one.
In any case. I am here when drawn, and i feel drawn in this immediate period.
When you speak about working with frequencies during rite, are we talking audial frequencies?
Aye :-) It is me. I thought about making it less obvious but i would had felt dishonest, and that is not my path. :-)
Titles themselves have never really stuck well to me. I was invited to join, because I was active and dedicated, but it was the work itself that drew me. I joined after more than a year of working here every day with people. Being an administrator, and very active participator.
I was invited into the titles when the times came, and wore them because i was already as invested as could be, but such things are not naturally of my ways. I respect Venger As’Nas Satanis and his order of things though. It was HE who put together these frames for us to portray and develop ourselves in. It takes work, and that he certainly has put in.
But coming here now, i would consider myself more of a guest than a resident. At least at this time. If i am to be a firm resident here again, it will be defined by actions of BEING a firm resident. Such must be earned by respecting the house, and contributing to the group, in my opinion. Hell have it, that i came here demanding somekind of special audience whilst spewing nought but vile waste.
I too failed to swim against the stream and keep myself in these forum halls. Many big things came crashing the other way. Many things were surfed around or overcome, and as seen, i still stand, but i was carried other places. And rightfully so i think.
All is relative, in other situations i would deeply consider myself a resident here. But to come and find this place well kept, although the stream of individuals and activity has changed through quite a bit of years now. That is humbling enough that i will consider myself a guest.
It was many sheddings of the skin, many layers ago that i oversaw these halls. I could had come here always these years, and also visited shortly to show some art in 2014 or so, but, to feel DRAWN to come here, with all the things playing in to feel so, THAT is like opening up a dream and living it in real life. Perhaps only for a few days, perhaps for years. In any case, this feels like picking up a picture of your childhood home, and then jumping into it, walking around in your new form and self.
Hail that.
IA! IA! KTULU FTAGN!
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Post by Beast Xeno on Nov 29, 2016 16:38:08 GMT -6
My apologies for not being a little more clear with my words. I wasn't speaking in terms of holding the title of WoTD, though I can place that moniker on your profile if you'd like. Titles are a thing of a past here. I was being slightly dramatic about my excitement that you resurfaced. As I said, I enjoyed your rituals, masks, insights, and posts. It was a recognition of your natural dedication to your own Works. In my eyes a true Wizard of Terrible Darkness works feverishly into the night with whatever madness he's currently immersed in. You embody that quality. So much so, that I could recognize you simply by your choice in avatar aesthetic, the formation of your sentences, and inner-narrative. In my eyes, especially given our interactions have been minimal, that speaks volumes for the presence.
Now onto your stay here, I truly hope regardless of your activity levels or commitment. That you always feel at home here. In the meantime I'll work to keep you drawn here.
I was speaking of audial frequencies. I have my own madness to pursue. Call it unfinished business.
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Post by Mara'Almara on Nov 29, 2016 17:52:54 GMT -6
Aye, i just read your announcement tonight about the lodge format free of set hierarchy. I think that is a productive shape. Venger was the captain of a ship which all the participants helped move. The ship itself can still be a platform, and growground, for those who come to it in the vast wideness. One can ring bells and try to drag people here, but (I think that) whichever springs and forms naturally will be more true and stand more self sustained.
I think best one can try to do, is to try and contribute to a nurturing and healthy soil here. From where inspiration spires. Aside from (although deeply entwined with) Vengers cult work and writs, another great thing was all the stuff that happened around it. From analyzing dreams, discussing on and off topic thoughts, sharing writs and wits, inspiration spread, and this was a constructive community.
About sound frequencies, I am reminded of two things. A cat which I experienced, that seemed to like a certain violin’ish sound on a Korg Kaossilator (it’s a synth pad). When the sound stopped it would get up and inspect the speakers, until the sound resumed and it would lay down and roll around. I cannot say to which degree it had to do with frequencies, but I have remembered it ever since.
Other example was a dog I met this year, one of its parents was a wolf/dog hybrid, and this dog was fairly wolf like. Anyway, the people who lived with it, played hiphop instrumentals out loud, and one single particular instrumental (which didn’t sound particularly unusual or different than any of the other instrumentals) just IMMIDIETELY set the dog off EVERY TIME as much as a split second was played.
It would stiffen up and STARE somewhere, then howl its ass off if the beat continued. We talked about it seeming like the dog was perhaps responding to frequencies that we could not similarly hear. Because it could tell the beat from all the others INSTANTLY. Like an alarm came on.
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Post by Mara'Almara on Nov 29, 2016 17:58:45 GMT -6
Might this unfinished business be a mindcontrol frequency canon?
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Post by Beast Xeno on Nov 29, 2016 21:41:18 GMT -6
Might this unfinished business be a mindcontrol frequency canon? Truthfully, yes something of that kind of narrative. Though mass application might be slightly more subtle than a cannon. Then again... I've always wanted a cannon. To date my focus has been a bit more myopic. I began just seeing if different frequency elicit various emotional responses. Knowing that the body produces different chemical reactions during specific emotional undertakings; it had given me the notion, that perhaps you could use it to foster desired physical and psychological states. Possibly correct chemical imbalances or increase metabolism. I mean hell, if sonic weapons can be used to disperse crowds or induce nausea, or render someone unconscious, then the potential for such a tool is limited only by imagination and experience (know-how). I would be interested in finding out what breed of cat/dog and frequencies were factors in your examples.
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