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Post by I AM the Way on Dec 14, 2011 10:13:41 GMT -6
Great video Brother Satanis. You look much more mature than the ones attacking you.Convincing about Christ and his way. It's useful to insist on that point, christianity as we know it has little to do with the original teaching of Christ.
Don't you think "Venger-haters" are obsessed by you ? And they just add to your fame ha ha ha.
I suggest you insert a little more humor in your future videos, the experience you got as standing comedian could be use to make them even better ; Even when speaking of tragic, epic, subject adding a little touch of humor isn't bad taste.
The God we worship is our future selves! Thanks, brother.
We're definitely on the same page. Reading you loud and clear.
Awake!
VS
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Post by boksmutant on Dec 15, 2011 4:27:38 GMT -6
There is a comical edge that can be exploited with these "distractions". In a simple way they are crying out for help lol.
Awake!
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Post by sin on Dec 15, 2011 11:03:41 GMT -6
Or Ooze Topics, just sayin'
CS
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Post by I AM the Way on Dec 27, 2011 0:01:26 GMT -6
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Post by sin on Dec 27, 2011 8:09:59 GMT -6
Seems the point of Ronnie's video went right over their heads. *golf clap*
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Post by sin on Dec 27, 2011 8:13:44 GMT -6
What's worse? Check out DF's comment on Blackwood's video. *face palm*
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Post by Voraxith on Dec 27, 2011 19:06:50 GMT -6
Hmm, I love how these people bandy about the word "attack" like it's supposed to mean something to people like me...
[glow=red,2,300]Ia! Ia! Cthulhu fhtagn![/glow]
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Post by Shaz'rahjeem on Dec 29, 2011 0:08:13 GMT -6
I don't understand why even bother acknowledging Darkfools jibbering in the first place. This sought of critique is empty of anything meaningful and essentially counter productive for all parties involved. Debating pseudo moralistic issues concerning a choice made by venger in his private life seems futile. Everything being discussed is just opinion and clearly DF's mind was made up in the first video. Its not like he's going to turn around say, " yea, that was dick move." And even if he did it would still be pointless, save that it would pander to egos.
We don't need to defend our selves from every hater. On a personal level its completely vacuous to even bother pretending that it matters. On a Cult level defending our selves is of course important but even so, should someone be so closed minded as to disallow the CoC a chance to help them then fuck 'em and keep walking. I just feel there are better things to discuss, debate and otherwise fold our minds over.
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Post by sin on Dec 29, 2011 8:39:31 GMT -6
I suppose for VS, its a matter of credibility. The rhetoric being spread by GM Blackwood (on various websites) was a weak attempt to demonstrate that VS is not a credible leader, nor is he a credible critical thinker. It's a personal choice to respond to that claim. Especially if you want to disseminate good information out there, in favor of rhetorical pieces that have no merit behind them.
This thing with Blackwood is personal, and it has more to do with me than this cult.
Blackwood posted that Rhetorical for my benefit, and he loses 'followers' every day, especially those that think for themselves. They see the little man behind the velvet curtain, and aren't too impressed with his lack of wizzardry.
The Dark Fool just found himself 'caught up' as usual. He seems to be caught on the wheel of the Fool's Journey with no real way off that merry-go-round. As I commented earlier, the video was originally going to be about me, and his butthurt over (2) recent FB discussions. I guess he realized he didn't have a leg to stand on, and chose to instead focus most of his attentions on VS, seeing that he was called out personally on his response video.
More projection and imagining from DF, but I suppose it made him feel accomplished, and re-popularized with his court. He can once again dance the Fool's dance for his audience.
At the very least, VS was able to directly address the photo he published of his family, and re-emphasize the tenets of this cult.
Bad press? We've had several new joins to the social network/forum. More and more people are checking it out for themselves. Perhaps in that mix of new folks, there will be a few remarkable men.
CS
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Post by I AM the Way on Dec 29, 2011 11:20:49 GMT -6
I understand your concern, brother. If more Cultists were interested in discussing the Work, then I would have less time and energy for detractors.
Where are the questions? What are the obstacles? How is the training being applied? Who are Cultists trying to become? How are the Great Old Ones communicating with us? When are we most asleep? Why is this viridescent teaching important?
Without active students, there is little reason for me to teach.
Awake!
Venger As'Nas Satanis Ipsissimus Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by Shaz'rahjeem on Dec 29, 2011 18:55:00 GMT -6
@cs. I didn't realize it had been going on for so long and in so many places. It's understandable then that you'd want to address it thusly. After having just looked around on google i can see that you're not the only one who seems to take issue with blackwood.
@vs. I'm always in for talking about these sought of things, i think most cultists would be(should be at least) interested. I guess we just need to get the ball rolling.
Ia Ia Cthulhu Fhtagn
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Post by sin on Dec 30, 2011 19:39:57 GMT -6
@cs. I didn't realize it had been going on for so long and in so many places. It's understandable then that you'd want to address it thusly. After having just looked around on google i can see that you're not the only one who seems to take issue with blackwood.
@vs. I'm always in for talking about these sought of things, i think most cultists would be(should be at least) interested. I guess we just need to get the ball rolling.
Ia Ia Cthulhu Fhtagn
To be honest, I didn't even know who this guy was until fairly recently. I'd heard his name mentioned in passing, but it wasn't until he stalked me from FB to paganspace.net (a site I frequent) that I chose to directly address Blackwood, I even had him on my podcast. On that show, I advised him that I'd be keeping a watchful eye over him. I guess he thought I was bluffing. He admits to learning my reputation, and has asked me for a truce on a few occasions. During our last pm, I advised him that if he stopped dissemination of false information that I might consider backing off. Instead he decided to enlist a few of his 'clergy' folks to write smear campaigns about me. Throwing me in the lot with the likes of Venus Satanas, and Szandora LaVey...The Skin Show, as I recall it. When he couldn't get at me this way, he figured he would indirectly through Venger, and this cult.
It's all trivial to me. As entertaining as all this is, I'd much rather discuss the paradigm with interested people. I'd like to know how they are using it, what obstacles stand in their way, and bounce ideas off of each other, for contrast. I enjoy the musings far more than the minor distractions which bring this cult attention.
The ball rolls...The question is, for how many and how often?
CS
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Post by I AM the Way on Jan 3, 2012 18:57:30 GMT -6
Another gem from Blackwood! God damn, how did this one escape my attention until now?
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Post by Ankor on Jan 3, 2012 19:19:47 GMT -6
One should pay no heed of these idiots, after all, his username is Darkfool (emphasis on the fool part of that).
Some people have nothing better to do then spread discord among what others work to build, simply to spite them. In my opinion, they do not deserve attention, only contempt.
There is, of course, the matter of credibly, as Cora'Sahn stated. But if one knows they are true to their beliefs, why pay attention to others opinions?
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Post by Voraxith on Jan 3, 2012 19:56:18 GMT -6
MAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
[glow=red,2,300]Awake![/glow]
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Post by sin on Jan 3, 2012 22:11:16 GMT -6
Lame video, but hey...more press!
CS
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Post by Ankor on Jan 4, 2012 18:00:24 GMT -6
And I neglected to mention that that video is hilarious.
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Post by sin on Jan 5, 2012 8:37:17 GMT -6
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Post by sin on Jan 5, 2012 9:03:44 GMT -6
Tom Erik Raspotnik, is in a house of cards.
Radiohead - House of Cards
I don't wanna be your friend I just wanna be your lover No matter how it ends No matter how it starts
Forget about your house of cards And I'll do mine Forget about your house of cards And I'll do mine
Fall off the table, And get swept under Denial, denial
The infrastructure will collapse From voltage spikes Throw your keys in the bowl Kiss your husband 'good night'
Forget about your house of cards And I'll do mine Forget about your house of cards And I'll do mine
Fall off the table, And get swept under
Denial, denial Denial, denial
Your ears are burning Denial, denial Your ears should be burning Denial, denial
"Invoke me under my stars! Love is the law, love under will. Nor let the fools mistake love; for there are love and love. There is the dove, and there is the serpent. Choose ye well! He, my prophet, hath chosen, knowing the law of the fortress, and the great mystery of the House of God." Liber al vel Legis 1:57
RISE! CS
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Post by Voraxith on Jan 15, 2012 4:28:35 GMT -6
I don't know entirely why, but I decided to make my own video address all the recent hostility towards the Cult, Venger, and Cora'Sahn. Enjoy it, hate it, laugh at it, do what thou wilt.
Horrible, I know -- but it is what it is.
[glow=red,2,300]Ia![/glow]
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Post by sin on Jan 15, 2012 22:11:43 GMT -6
It's not really recent, the CoC has always been a target of ridicule. I'd imagine it follows suit with any new religion.
They did crucify Christ after all
CS
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Post by sin on Jan 16, 2012 7:49:13 GMT -6
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Post by I AM the Way on Jan 17, 2012 14:36:27 GMT -6
I don't know entirely why, but I decided to make my own video address all the recent hostility towards the Cult, Venger, and Cora'Sahn. Enjoy it, hate it, laugh at it, do what thou wilt. Horrible, I know -- but it is what it is.[glow=red,2,300] Ia![/glow] Wow, I meant to watch this days ago and then forgot. Just stumbled over it accidentally. Very cool, brother. Thanks for making it. You should make more, and next time speak up just a bit.
Awake!
VS
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Post by sol on Jan 18, 2012 3:01:23 GMT -6
I was under the impression that CoC operated smoothly within all different religions as a part of them. My family has two parts. Catholic and Atheist.
I was baptized, my daughter was not and she can choose to do so if she likes if she decides. Goes back to circumcision and all such odd things that we have because of religion.
How can a man be pwnd by something he desires? Nice shirt man. Nice kid, nice woman. I hope things continue to go well for you, despite the haters which I personally would disregard.
Watched this fantastic movie called 'Collapse' - The link is on the 'must see documentaries' torrent via demonoid. If you do not have access to demonoid I will give you passage via email.
The man states plainly that he no longer debates. If you look around you it is plain to see the things that he is talking about are happening. There is no need to pander to the ignorant and uninformed. The proof is out there, easy to reach and perceive. Let them set upon each other about denials of truth. What a waste of time to give them any space of your reality?
Namaste
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Post by sin on Jan 18, 2012 9:07:48 GMT -6
What a waste of time to give them any space of your reality? Namaste Yes, and no. On one hand we could provide enough evidence to support the idea that time has been wasted on dissenters. On the other, we could support the idea that through an opposing viewpoint, one may refine their own views. Or see the outsider viewpoint, and why they misunderstand what the CoC is, and how it can be used for becoming.
For example, when ridiculing statements are issued about the cult and its leadership, these opinions can be pointed to, for contrast to demonstrate HOW the paradigm can be used, to overcome and refine oneself.
When I asked WHY we spend so much time on the Naysayers, it was a pointed question. If you pay attention, only a handful deal with them directly, a bit more indirectly, but most do not give them their time or attention - they have Work to do.
You are correct, in that it allows for diversity in personal paradigm (whatever that may be), allegorically we could say, that the CoC is the frame-work, and your personal paradigm is the slime on its bones. As long as the cultist understands the framework, he can use chaos to his benefit. Things are organized for his use, only to be scattered to chaos once more for the next.
Thank you for your feedback.
CS
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Post by I AM the Way on Jan 18, 2012 14:29:05 GMT -6
It should be noted that the majority of criticism aimed at our quantum religion is simply ignored.
You hear about the critics we argue back at, but that's about 10% of the total. Off-handed comments or videos ripping on the CoC or its leadership aren't worth the time and energy. However, those which might help us refine our own understanding of the Great Work and/or garner publicity are probably worth a response. Wouldn't you agree?
Awake!
VS
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Post by I AM the Way on Jan 18, 2012 14:30:35 GMT -6
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Post by sin on Jan 19, 2012 8:13:06 GMT -6
I personally agree, and as demonstrated by various youtube video responses, it has people refining their ideas - even if only to defend or oppose the CoC.
Why is the CoC given so much attention if its just a silly religion with a false messiah at the helm? Hmmmmmmm think about it.
RISE! CS
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2012 11:44:44 GMT -6
Why is the CoC given so much attention if its just a silly religion with a false messiah at the helm? Hmmmmmmm think about it.
Exactly !
Ia! Ia! Cthulhu fhtagn.
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Post by Voraxith on Jan 20, 2012 16:59:49 GMT -6
A comment on my video by 02Blackbeard. Not entirely sure what to make of it, but I've seen other comments by this 02Blackbeard guy, and he seems pretty antagonistic toward the Cult, and Venger specifically. Anyone know who this guy/girl is?
[glow=red,2,300]Ia! Ia! Cthulhu fhtagn![/glow]
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