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Post by I AM the Way on Feb 8, 2009 12:12:45 GMT -6
though i'm the author and obviously biased, i just wanted to report on something. last night i had a very powerful breakthrough regarding a certain area of my life. it kind of came out of nowhere; perhaps it came into being because of Liber A:O, perhaps not.
however, there are things i wrote about, dreamed about, prophesied about within Liber A:O that fit exactly with what occurred last night. if reality was directly influenced by book II of our bible, then who knows what might be next...?
Venger As'Nas Satanis Cult of Cthulhu High Priest
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Post by Madguten on Feb 8, 2009 12:27:13 GMT -6
I too had planned to make such a thread here, to discuss our immediate and later thoughts regarding the LIBER A:O. I have just been short of time. RIGHT THESE days, i am working on a video for a collaboration project, (more about that soon) and most of my computer time goes with that, its nearly done.
The LIBER A:O is a really clear text. The Cthulhu Cult book 1 was also, but this new tome is moreso (i think). I know that you have made it so consciously and it truly is a breath of fresh air to sit and read the text (for me). Its also a jolt, or a boost and a reminder. The "to the point-ness" and honest fashion of the book is amazing, it cuts away the cloths of illusion, no it tears and rips them away, or rather into fallen shreds.
More later.
Hail Solar! Hail Lunar!
And IA! A:O!
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Post by Shaz'rahjeem on Feb 8, 2009 18:31:16 GMT -6
I agree with everything that MG says in regards to liber A:O. My only negative thought is that I at the moment only have the pdf.
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Post by Xor'Nefthrahm on Feb 8, 2009 22:26:41 GMT -6
First thing im gonna buy when my tax return gets back.. for now I will have to settle for the PDF or webpage. But it is truely an amazing book. The example exercise on awakening that it gives is really a great example, it was something I was trying to do all along and didnt even know it. I know the meaning of my name now, which might ruin the mystery to some, but for me it gives it more power.. Esbara'Kesh, Predestined Passion. I am a very passionate person, using it as spell-fuel, and it kind of hit home. I look forward to formulating mantras for spells using the Cult language.. The book is truely an Eldritch blessing apon this world!
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Post by sin on Feb 10, 2009 9:38:04 GMT -6
I'm half way through the book, and I have to agree with Madguten on this one. Book 1 was good, but this book is hands-down a better communicated idea. The style of writing, the analogies used and the overall feel of Book 2 is clear, concise and provocative.
I think you should make an audio file of the intro text and have it playing on the main website for effect.
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Post by I AM the Way on Feb 10, 2009 10:57:09 GMT -6
ahhh, i can breathe now. thank you, that's what i needed to hear. ;D
VS
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Post by sin on Feb 10, 2009 11:15:10 GMT -6
ahhh, i can breathe now. thank you, that's what i needed to hear. ;D
VS Yah, Dan Harms or whatever that guy's name was can eat shit and choke on tentacles. :-), I'm just sayin'
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Post by egodiabolus on Feb 13, 2009 21:37:43 GMT -6
I have just read Liber A:O. Excellent work. Marvelous illustrations, both in regards to the art and the allegory. What do we have to look forward to in book 3?
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Post by apologist1 on Feb 23, 2009 2:07:56 GMT -6
I found this book hilarious. Fascist-eugenic breeding patterns? Sex-crazed, sad masturbatory fantasies about impregnating teenagers? Third-rate high school level philosophy? Unbelievable that many of you are already well into your thirties. Only in America, I guess!
Back in reality: Fantasyland is either a diversion for rich materialists bored with their life and unwilling to put in the intellectual effort necessary to acquire proficiency in a meaningful, relevant discipline (i.e. philosophy, quantum physics etc.) or pure teenage escapism.
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Post by I AM the Way on Feb 23, 2009 6:36:43 GMT -6
if that's all you got out of it, then i'm sorry. but thanks for your feedback.
VS
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Post by sin on Feb 23, 2009 9:54:38 GMT -6
I found this book hilarious. Fascist-eugenic breeding patterns? Sex-crazed, sad masturbatory fantasies about impregnating teenagers? Third-rate high school level philosophy? Unbelievable that many of you are already well into your thirties. Only in America, I guess! Back in reality: Fantasyland is either a diversion for rich materialists bored with their life and unwilling to put in the intellectual effort necessary to acquire proficiency in a meaningful, relevant discipline (i.e. philosophy, quantum physics etc.) or pure teenage escapism. I'm not surprised you have this attitude towards the new book; I mean - shit, considering that you can't even grasp simple concepts like awakening, subjective reality, and aspirations towards godhood. I wonder apologist1, if your role is simply to be adversary to the COC ideology, what does that say about you and your self-applied delusions of grandeur? In all of your intellect, surely you could find a more suitable venue to showcase your supreme intelligence in comparison to our high school philosophies? Perhaps we in our 30's are far beyond your simpleton understandings, and you can't wrap your head around why we would be attracted to such an organization and it's ideas? Just a thought... I could be wrong. I'm often wrong. Break it down to me, please - I'll stand by.
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Post by Madguten on Feb 24, 2009 5:44:33 GMT -6
YOU are the one who actually believes that you know and understand existence and reality full enough for you to rule out our thoughts and speculations as being "Third-rate high school level philosophy". You are closed up, and blinded by (what you think is) yourself.
You are a machine, and you are acting according.
You are the one living in fantasy land.
Open you eyes and actually perceive.
Open your mind and actually think.
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Post by Izratan'Sharaz on Mar 9, 2009 1:31:16 GMT -6
Venger you are a absolute genius,this book has opened doors to unseen worlds for me i feel like i'm in the from beyond movie!!!!!! It is a great book, hope the 3rd comes soon.
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Post by apologist1 on Mar 10, 2009 2:44:11 GMT -6
YOU are the one who actually believes that you know and understand existence and reality full enough for you to rule out our thoughts and speculations as being "Third-rate high school level philosophy". You are closed up, and blinded by (what you think is) yourself. You are a machine, and you are acting according. You are the one living in fantasy land. Open you eyes and actually perceive. Open your mind and actually think. I believe in 4000 years of philosophy and science to refute some of the dishwater level shit that is spewed on this forum. Please state your reasons as to why this is not enough to counter an argument which states "um, you know, nothing is real, expect the old ones, but it's all just chaos magic - do whatever works.' That's the kind of third rate philosophy my friends talked about over D&D sessions when I was 12. The usual response among people with poor scientific or philosophical backgrounds is: "well, education/intelligence/science/philosophy' is just opinion and worthless and maybe "outside of the box" there is Cthulhu. I hope that you can do better. When these things (science, reason, philosophy) are forsaken, the results are forums like this, where you have hundreds of threads talking about raping people, sacrifice, whether to abuse children etc. Fucking squalid moronic shit. "I'll be really daring and talk about raping someone and how we're all asleep." Risible. RAISE YOUR STANDARDS!
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Post by egodiabolus on Mar 10, 2009 10:27:53 GMT -6
I keep reading what apologist1 posts, and keep wondering what motivates him to degrade himself by wallowing at our "dishwater" level? Why does he continue to seek the validation of persons he does not respect in forums he has nothing but disdain for? Why does he bother?
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Post by I AM the Way on Mar 10, 2009 12:17:51 GMT -6
Ah ha!!! that's a very good question.
mmm, indeed. 4,000 years of science! the very same science which proved that the earth was flat, that spontaneous generation was possible, that eating Mercury was good for us, that ape is not man's ancestor, that matter is solid, that nothing can travel back in time...
if science has proved anything to us, it has proven this: science is always wrong
there will always be another theory to replace the old facts that have been disproven. human beings can only see so much truth at one time and rarely, if ever, takes in the big picture.
well, guess what! the Cult of Cthulhu perceives everything at once. it is this spiritual or metaphysical dimension which you do not account for, which modern science almost never accounts for. you're still proving 2 + 2 = 4 while we're breaking reality down to its sub-atomic properties.
if you actually wanted a spirited exchange of ideas, i'd be all for it. yes, we would argue our points and try to reach some kind of consensus or common ground. however, that's not what you're after. you just want the attention. want to make yourself feel superior. that's not how this is going to work, brother.
how can i, a man, debate with a cockroach? i just don't have the words...
Venger As'Nas Satanis Cult of Cthulhu High Priest
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Post by Xor'Nefthrahm on Mar 10, 2009 19:54:11 GMT -6
I think the apologist is a teenager. When I was a juvenile delinquent counselor there were alot of intelligent know-it-all teens who were really book smart, but arrogant as all hell, and lacking any common sense. His lack of etiquette makes him come off in this manner. I could be wrong.
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Post by Madguten on Mar 11, 2009 9:27:18 GMT -6
By the end of the day it is your own loss if you do not understand/appreciate what we are saying.
I am not saying that you should not express your skepticism but personally i am too busy and tired of the same discussions over and over again to give a damn about this talk.
I find discussions for the mere sake of discussion tiresome and unproductive.
Light up and inspire, instead of setting your path on fire.
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Post by jmsn72 on Mar 11, 2009 13:13:56 GMT -6
I'm not going to even get involved with what apologist has said.I will say that Liber A.O. left me with a clarity of mind and will to control my life rather than ride the waves of mediocrity as I was doing for the past 23 years.It left me with a resolve to most importantly control myself rather than drown this boring world out under gallons of booze.
While for a mind like mine there still is a lot of wavering,at least now i can kinda see that much of my downs from this point are due to a lack of internal cohesiveness and a tendency to embrace the negative I's way too much.
I hope this was relevant to the thread.All in all it was a work of art that influenced me to move rather than rot.
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Post by Xor'Nefthrahm on Mar 11, 2009 13:47:19 GMT -6
I'm not going to even get involved with what apologist has said. Your right. We shouldnt feed in to him. That is probably what he wants. I will say that Liber A.O. left me with a clarity of mind and will to control my life rather than ride the waves of mediocrity as I was doing for the past 23 years.It left me with a resolve to most importantly control myself rather than drown this boring world out under gallons of booze. While for a mind like mine there still is a lot of wavering,at least now i can kinda see that much of my downs from this point are due to a lack of internal cohesiveness and a tendency to embrace the negative I's way too much. I hope this was relevant to the thread.All in all it was a work of art that influenced me to move rather than rot. It is nice to hear your story. I suffered from bipolar disorder and had to take Abilify as a treatment. After reading Liber A:O and practicing it's teachings, I have had hardly and depressive/anger outbursts/phases, only the manic ones. I have learned how to shut off the negative phases as soon as I feel one comming on. And it was always over nothing. I havent had to take Abilify for almost 2 months now, and I only had one quick, 1 minute anger outburst, but it was over someone calling my wife a slut just because me and her do some pretty freaky shit and my wife isnt afraid to talk about sexuality. So I'm sure some can imagine why I got pissed, but even THAT I was able to grab ahold of. I thought about the situation, and instead of bashing their face in, I realized that the person was an insect. A sleeper. Ignorant, and bound by petty morals. I feel sorry for them because they lack the sexual liberation me and my wife have, and they lack the the relationship that we share. They probably will never experiance good sex. Not EVEN worth my emotions, and neither is the apologist.
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Post by Madguten on Mar 11, 2009 17:41:54 GMT -6
Ay, wise words (both of you).
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Post by sin on Mar 12, 2009 7:46:18 GMT -6
I dunno, I sort of enjoy Apologist 1's adversarial position on most issues - as it forces me to examine my own thoughts on the subject, as well as voice them in written format. Apologist 1 is a tool, use it like any other.
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Post by Xor'Nefthrahm on Mar 12, 2009 10:51:31 GMT -6
I dunno, I sort of enjoy Apologist 1's adversarial position on most issues - as it forces me to examine my own thoughts on the subject, as well as voice them in written format. Apologist 1 is a tool, use it like any other. You are right, and we have to be prepared for this kind of resistance, and he is a good example of a pure sceptic. We WILL have to deal with people as unbending, skeptical, and stubborn as him. Good training on learning how to react. The first thing I am learning is dont feed in emotionally, because chances are that is the kind of reaction they want. I suppose he is a nessassary "evil"..
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Post by Xor'Nefthrahm on Mar 12, 2009 10:58:00 GMT -6
By the end of the day it is your own loss if you do not understand/appreciate what we are saying. I am not saying that you should not express your skepticism but personally i am too busy and tired of the same discussions over and over again to give a damn about this talk. I find discussions for the mere sake of discussion tiresome and unproductive. Light up and inspire, instead of setting your path on fire.That pretty much sums it up!
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Post by sin on Mar 12, 2009 13:11:12 GMT -6
I dunno, I sort of enjoy Apologist 1's adversarial position on most issues - as it forces me to examine my own thoughts on the subject, as well as voice them in written format. Apologist 1 is a tool, use it like any other. You are right, and we have to be prepared for this kind of resistance, and he is a good example of a pure sceptic. We WILL have to deal with people as unbending, skeptical, and stubborn as him. Good training on learning how to react. The first thing I am learning is dont feed in emotionally, because chances are that is the kind of reaction they want. I suppose he is a nessassary "evil".. Hey, I was skeptical myself - ask VS :-)
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Post by Xor'Nefthrahm on Mar 12, 2009 13:15:08 GMT -6
You are right, and we have to be prepared for this kind of resistance, and he is a good example of a pure sceptic. We WILL have to deal with people as unbending, skeptical, and stubborn as him. Good training on learning how to react. The first thing I am learning is dont feed in emotionally, because chances are that is the kind of reaction they want. I suppose he is a nessassary "evil".. Hey, I was skeptical myself - ask VS :-) It just occured to me, but if we can get apologist1 on our side, he would probably make a good instigator.
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Post by sin on Mar 12, 2009 13:19:04 GMT -6
Hey, I was skeptical myself - ask VS :-) It just occured to me, but if we can get apologist1 on our side, he would probably make a good instigator. I think Apologist 1, is working it through - or else why would he be here to critique the theology? I lurked in the shadows for nearly a year as an 'Anonymous user' before I drew my own conclusion.
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Post by apologist1 on Mar 12, 2009 21:31:05 GMT -6
You don't know what you're talking about. Science is a method. It constructs testable hyptotheses about reality. Science constructs theories out of the results of its experiments. As advances are made in our understanding, previous theories can be changed in light of new evidence. By definition, change is part of the scientific process.
You know nothing at all about sub-atomic properties.
I think you're a rich kid who got a mediocre degree and spends his time advocating rape and making unintentionally self-parodying internet videos where he proclaims himself to be Jesus. I think you claim knowledge of science and astrophysics where you have none, and use this non-knowledge to advocate sad masturbatory sex abuse, rape, the objectification and degradation of women and your fascist eugenics. I'm willing to bet you have never read a book of philosophy. I think that you spew self-aggrandising, under-thought, over-written, plagiarized nonsense for the sheer joy of hearing the words babble from your tongue.
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Post by I AM the Way on Mar 13, 2009 10:47:54 GMT -6
yeah, you got me. now what? if you're right about me and the CoC, then why keep rubbing our faces in it? you've won! are you ready to leave yet? or is there still some noble work that you need to do here?
VS
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Post by Izratan'Sharaz on Mar 13, 2009 22:29:46 GMT -6
apologist1 your an idiot and your just jealous that you have never fucked anyone,let me guess your a christian fuck hope you read this jackass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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