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Post by nixx on Apr 18, 2010 4:44:34 GMT -6
I can say from someone who works in the Simon Necronomicon system as his primary system, that many have come up with the same view on the system. This is, in fact, the most common view most acquire from reading the Nec. The best advice I can offer anyone who really wants to understand the system is to see if you can work with it; but if you do, do it in the correct way. I will tell you that if both the Elder Gods & the Ancient Ones are vital to the system as a whole & that one works with both of them eventually; in fact, not doing so short circuits the alchemical process that the system begins in an Initiate.
You may question my comment about seeing if you can work with it. To clarify, anyone can work the spells, incantations, exorcisms, etc. contained therein to varying degrees of success, but to truly understand the system itself, one needs to go through the Gate Walking Initiation & not everyone is able to or chosen to do this. Scoff at this statement if you like, but it is true; the system has a life of its own & it chooses who it wishes to initiate.
If you do decide to put this to the test, start with the Conjuration of the Fire God & the Summoning of the Watcher. You will know after the Watcher ritual if you are able to initiate into the system or not.
If anyone has any questions, I will be happy to answer them.
Awake!
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Post by nixx on Apr 18, 2010 5:02:16 GMT -6
Know about this site? warlockasylum.wordpress.com/I have not read through it all but it describe the Gatwalking process as the fall and rise upon the Qlippoth. This is clearly hinted at in the Magan text part 4. Also about Simon being RHP, I don't think so. Many passage of the Gates of the Necronomicon suggest the oposite (in my own interpretation of course. I could quote, but I have better stuff to do! (see pages 20-21, among others) About the whole "good vs evil war"... Hell, are you christians? Beside, Gods are a far more deep and complicated subject than a simple duality. Good/Evil, Elder gods/Ancient Ones, all those are symbol invented by man. All symbol are false, but they are what is the closest to perfection depending on one subjective perception. Fuck Science Fuck Mathematics Hail Chaos! Beside, I had very good results using the Necronomicon Spellbook, and I'm far, very far from being RHP. Sortilèges I'm so glad some people found this blog. Warlock Asylum is my mentor in the system & believe me, he knows his shit. He also wrote a book on the system, specifically the Urilla text called "The Atlantean Necronomicon" which one can find on Lulu for $13.00. It really opens up what the system is really about & also presents some further work he's done with it. I recommend it highly. When The Stars Are Right!
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Post by I AM the Way on Apr 18, 2010 10:31:31 GMT -6
I like referring to them as the lesser gods of the earth, but yeah you've got it right.
By His loathsome tentacles,
Venger As'Nas Satanis Cult of Cthulhu High Priest
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Post by Sarak G'hash on Apr 18, 2010 10:31:52 GMT -6
Know about this site? warlockasylum.wordpress.com/I have not read through it all but it describe the Gatwalking process as the fall and rise upon the Qlippoth. This is clearly hinted at in the Magan text part 4. Also about Simon being RHP, I don't think so. Many passage of the Gates of the Necronomicon suggest the oposite (in my own interpretation of course. I could quote, but I have better stuff to do! (see pages 20-21, among others) About the whole "good vs evil war"... Hell, are you christians? Beside, Gods are a far more deep and complicated subject than a simple duality. Good/Evil, Elder gods/Ancient Ones, all those are symbol invented by man. All symbol are false, but they are what is the closest to perfection depending on one subjective perception. Fuck Science Fuck Mathematics Hail Chaos! Beside, I had very good results using the Necronomicon Spellbook, and I'm far, very far from being RHP. Sortilèges I'm so glad some people found this blog. Warlock Asylum is my mentor in the system & believe me, he knows his shit. He also wrote a book on the system, specifically the Urilla text called "The Atlantean Necronomicon" which one can find on Lulu for $13.00. It really opens up what the system is really about & also presents some further work he's done with it. I recommend it highly. When The Stars Are Right! Glad to see someone else who is working with Warlock Asylum!!! He rocks! I'm just getting started with him myself and am hoping to get the Atlantean Necronomicon myself! Awake!
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Post by nixx on Apr 18, 2010 11:39:35 GMT -6
Get it as soon as you can; it is a truly inspired work.
No One Comes to Yog-Sothoth but Through Him!
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Post by Kyuubi on Apr 18, 2010 22:33:33 GMT -6
Warlock Asylum is fantastic has been my home page for about a year now.
His Necronomicon is very useful and worth the read. Thanks to Lord Satanis, Liber A:O has replaced its possition in my work. If your interested in his book i would give it to you just send me somthing for shipping.
Hail Lord Satanis!
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Post by Sarak G'hash on Apr 20, 2010 3:17:38 GMT -6
Warlock Asylum is fantastic has been my home page for about a year now. His Necronomicon is very useful and worth the read. Thanks to Lord Satanis, Liber A:O has replaced its possition in my work. If your interested in his book i would give it to you just send me somthing for shipping. Hail Lord Satanis! If you still have a copy, I'd be very willing to send you shipping costs!! Just let me know by email if you'd rather have it cash or paypal. Awake!
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Post by deformity on Nov 28, 2015 12:41:34 GMT -6
i just use the sigil for KUTULU FROM THE URILLA TEXT
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Post by hereth on Apr 30, 2017 2:30:09 GMT -6
Also, there are some EXTREMELY AND I MEAN EXTREMELY powerful magickians that fight for the Elder Ones. They form the necronomicon Order. Consult any of these wise guys with the above question and they will all tell you that the Elder Gods are not 'just another side of the Ancient Ones.' I just don't see why anyone would wanna "Little goodie two shoes"(guess which horror/comedy movie that term came form) and be a part of the Necronomicon Order Combine simon and al-azif. you hear of the white sorcerer going black and changing sides,it's an initiation of sorts, the ancient ones are not in this dimension, the practitioner has to go through a series of gates to reach the realm where the ancient ones are. That murduk put in order to prevent any ancient one from reaching the physical plane. You can however reach the gate from inside the physical realm through gate walking. However you are advised to stop at the urilia text and not go further, because of a covenant made between the elder gods and the ancient ones long ago. you may keep the gate open but only for a short period of time when the solar influence is low. Alternatively you can use both Simon and Al-azif because we would be talking of the same forces. Al azif is the way one passes unto Yog-Sothoth. possibly the Dark Cult spell book. the LHP version. The last surviving black book of hermaeus mora, and the most essential. So after you finish simon go for al azif and pass through Yog-Sothoth it's like finishing hogwarts and then joining voldemort. the basics of magick are the same,the path differs. Some even would say that the RHP is a ladder leading to the LHP, schools who are strictly RHP usually end up stale and dogmatic. The Ancient ones are not the aggressors or the evil ones, they are beyond good and evil, they were overlooking man's evolution to the stars,then the elder gods meddle and they create mankind from the blood of Kingu,using clay to keep us anchored n the physical and never discover magick. The elder gods used mankind for slavery since then we mined gold for them and they came up with magick to keep us down. and /control/belief systems,to keep us brain washed . (Abrahamic religions are creation of the elder gods) hoping that some day the gate will be never opened again. Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.
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Post by hereth on Oct 25, 2017 14:08:35 GMT -6
Also, there are some EXTREMELY AND I MEAN EXTREMELY powerful magickians that fight for the Elder Ones. They form the necronomicon Order. Consult any of these wise guys with the above question and they will all tell you that the Elder Gods are not 'just another side of the Ancient Ones.' Offcourse after all Enki is the god of magick and grants gifts to his followers which is tempting till you realize it might limit you in terms that he might curse you if you work with his ancient enemies (Abzu-Tiamat) . I just don't see why anyone would wanna "Little goodie two shoes"(guess which horror/comedy movie that term came form) and be a part of the Necronomicon Order The elder gods, are said to be the children of the A:O , Although they represent the higher realms . I have friends among the Simon Necro order, they are alright, most of them just walk the gates to get to the urilia text and work with the A:O . I tried to tell them that this is a right hand path book, they don't listen.
The left hand path book is Kitab Al Azif (the true Lovecraftian Necronomicon) as well as Typhonian/sethian magick (Set is Nyarlathotep) (Azathoth is Apophis the destroyer) Another argument is: The Point is that if the Great Old Ones are beyond good and evil, then so should we, we might use good and evil as it suits the situation and not worry about the label.
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