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Post by punkritualtheatre on Dec 22, 2007 19:35:13 GMT -6
Looks like I've been put in a leading role.
Never mind, my authority can easily be chalenged by any of the following;
a) coming out with better ideas, b) going over my head and talking to someone who's in the Cthulhu Cult, because I'm currently not even a member. c) asking me nicely.
The story so far,
Interest in astral vampirism / communion / sex / melding etc. has grown on other threads, but we're concerned about safety.
We've got half a coven's worth of magicians who want to try astral melding / communion / vampirism etc. a range of phenomenon which may or may not be roughly the same thing.
We've come from different back grounds and may have different expecations.
I think that the best way to proceed would be by everyone talking a bit about what they're looking for, and what skills and experiences they allready have which may help the project.
Then everyone can take on as many partners in this work as they like, with each pair working at their own rate towards safely increasing their connection and astral contact.
Also I think it would be a good idea if friendly critics posted their concerns here so that we can overcome as many potential problems as we can and proceed in safety.
The choice of what each one of us does belongs to the individual. We are our own gods.
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Post by Tehiru.Chalal on Dec 24, 2007 12:16:31 GMT -6
It would seem that the Astral Sabbat which is being proposed actually is somewhat schizophrenic because there are a number of issues being proposed for exploration. I would suggest we clearly identify these specific sub-topics so we can begin to form "teams".
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Post by Tehiru.Chalal on Dec 24, 2007 12:20:02 GMT -6
On the subject of safeguards, if that is a concern among the various members than what about this...
Everyone has to provide a photo of themselves to both the team leader (who can be challenged as discussed) and to their team member. This serves as a sympathetic link. If someone gets out of line, the collective will of the other team members can smash anything it finds offensive. From there, things could escalate as required.
If the other members of this thread find this sufficient, I will be the first to provide my photo.
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Post by jasmine on Dec 31, 2007 10:57:20 GMT -6
OK, I finally have a minute to actually reply to this! I have worked with energy for appx 20 years. I have mostly played with energy balls, extrusions of will or tendrils. I have practiced linking to people at a couple of group experiments and had a great time. I never thought of actually linking to someone who is not physically present in the room until I had my experience with punkritualtheatre. Of course I am interested in more of this type of work as I personally feel that this is another way to access evolutive energies. Being able to truly understand another's perspective is a real gift. I have also worked a little with Quantum Touch and pulling pain out of sore muscles or injuries. Other than that. I am pretty much a noob and am looking forward to learning more. Oh...in my teens I used to experiment with a friend with dream travel. We would attempt to reach each others dreams...this was my first experience with astral travel. I also am trained in shamanic journeying methods. I find that astral travel and shamanic travel seem to be very similar. That's it as far as I can remember.
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Post by ratmage on Jan 1, 2008 12:20:25 GMT -6
Another way of doing this is by making a meeting place on the astral plane . thats how my fellow witches do it. make sure to describe in great detail the place of meeting . this will not only aid in finding it ,but will also solidify it on the astral plane
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Post by jasmine on Jan 3, 2008 9:31:42 GMT -6
Another way of doing this is by making a meeting place on the astral plane . thats how my fellow witches do it. make sure to describe in great detail the place of meeting . this will not only aid in finding it ,but will also solidify it on the astral plane I think that is a great idea! The only real work I have ever really done on the astral was the creation of an astral temple. It changes in nature from time to time but essential parts remain the same. I have noticed that as I grow and age as a person it changes with me.... for example: when I first accepted Cthulhu into the pantheon of deities and spirits that I work with, the entire valley that contained my temple became awash with emerald green waters. It was pretty damned cool. What kind of exercises do we want to do first though? I only had the one experience with punkritualtheatre to work with....do we all want to take turns "meeting" each other first. An astral handshake as it were? It all really depends on trust...how much do we trust each other? I trust a lot. I also trust that my higher self will guide me on this as well. I listen to my gut a lot. It rarely leads me astray. Well, its needless to say that I am excited about this experiment and am looking forward to it much.
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Post by ratmage on Jan 3, 2008 10:30:46 GMT -6
why not it does sound like good fun
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Post by iconoclasm on Jan 3, 2008 20:28:19 GMT -6
On the subject of safeguards, if that is a concern among the various members than what about this... Everyone has to provide a photo of themselves to both the team leader (who can be challenged as discussed) and to their team member. This serves as a sympathetic link. If someone gets out of line, the collective will of the other team members can smash anything it finds offensive. From there, things could escalate as required. If the other members of this thread find this sufficient, I will be the first to provide my photo. The participant should also receive the leaders photo in return just to make things equivalent. Another question I have is overcoming safeguards such as servitors or subconscious defenses participants may have ignored ,forgotten or deliberately set up as an act of malice.How will this be dealt with. I suppose the biggest question is a matter of trust. Needless to say I am a bystander simply interested in the results.Please do post developments as you receive them
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Post by ratmage on Jan 3, 2008 21:38:24 GMT -6
what do you say we describe a place for such a meet. see if this works .......or you know the photo thing i guess works as well
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Post by iconoclasm on Jan 4, 2008 13:32:30 GMT -6
I am still uncertain as to whether to get involved in this type of working (being solitary and all) but if I get any bit of curiosity at all I will let you know.
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Post by ratmage on Jan 6, 2008 20:24:21 GMT -6
Does it have to be work . it could be the new wave in communication . The end to myspace as we know it. Mingeling through space time.
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Post by I AM the Way on Jan 7, 2008 12:01:22 GMT -6
ok, let's do it.
this doesn't have to be the only astral temple in town, so to speak; however, i think the CoC should have an officially designated chancel.
give me some input on what you'd like as i'll be working on the details and putting it into the next site update. if anyone has pictures... of yourself, evil-looking church images, artwork for the chancel walls, etc. that they want featured on the astral temple page, then let me know. i'll take a look at anything you send me and will use what is most appropriate.
Venger As'Nas Satanis Cult of Cthulhu High Priest
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Post by Yahn'ikthorn on Jan 7, 2008 12:21:38 GMT -6
I'm in, even though I'm completely new to this... where should I post or send the pictures?
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Post by ratmage on Jan 7, 2008 20:20:50 GMT -6
sweet :but be warned I dont often project as a human so watch your feet .lol
Na I wont astral shape shift ,at least till I am sure every one is cool peoples . Then I will mess around
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Post by iconoclasm on Jan 7, 2008 23:25:43 GMT -6
I don't have an astral form,or if I do I dunno if it'd always look like me.For sure Im in.Feel free to contact me astrally.I need help and desperately ,Ill be indebted if any of you manage to pull me out of my body and help me project.
Unfortunately in terms of evil pictures,lol,this is as evil as I get.I've the least threatening appearance of a good lot of people.It'd be fun to try something new for a change. ;D
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Post by jasmine on Jan 8, 2008 12:03:56 GMT -6
Yay!!! I am so excited. I really want to do this. I already had my own astral temple shift when I accepted Cthulhu as a deity in my own pantheon. I vote for beautiful emerald green waters!!! I am seeing a large cavern....not a church. Just a personal note. I don't care what the place looks like. I am excited to see what this does. I have not gotten to meet all of you....I also like shapeshifters.....I often will look spidery to others who view me on the astral....I resonate with Grandmother Spider in the Underworld...she is my spirit guide so I think I take on some of her aspects. I think I already have a pretty good idea of what Venger "feels" like as he really put a lot of himself into the Meta Sigil.....lots of powerful male force in there. I am looking forward to seeing all of you.....or feeling or whatever. I am going to go look for a decent pic to put up.
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Post by I AM the Way on Jan 8, 2008 13:49:54 GMT -6
your post reminds me of the Drow (Dark Elves in the D&D mythos) and their Goddess Lloth, Demon Queen of Spiders. love reading the R.A. Salvatore books, plus i just love evil races. i find spiders fascinating and unsettling at the same time.
that's good... the more details the better. perhaps a hilltop full of standing stones just off the coast?
VS
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Post by iconoclasm on Jan 8, 2008 15:46:30 GMT -6
Ahhh beyond the cave is a great mountainous cliff littered with stone and rocks looking down over the green emerald waters.The sky outside of the cavern is ablaze with an intense firey red fading into orange.
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Post by jasmine on Jan 9, 2008 13:16:37 GMT -6
AAAaaagggh! I knew you rocked already Venger....but I am a dark elf freak! I have read all of the R. A Salvatore books as well as anything about Drow that I can find. How cool is that?!!! Anyway, I see the emerald green waters ebbing and flowing out of the cavern somehow....the reddish sky and the mountainous cliff sound good as well. Creating an astral temple took me quite some time years ago and it has a tendency to shift as my paradigm shifts with me. I am wondering how difficult it will be to solidify the image with all our unconscious wants and desires muddying things up? With that in mind.....how about one of you artistic types drawing an image that can be tweaked until we all agree with it and use it as a common ground to work from? Just an idea... Also, Punkritualtheatre mentioned that we should partner up with people to get to know this process a bit before we try the group thing and I have to say I agree with him. I am open to switching partners off and on until we are all energetically familiar with each other. So who wants to be my partner first? Oh....I am still working on putting up a pic....I got really sick last night and am still recuperating. Will return soon with one. I really love that Drow pic Venger. Its great.
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Post by iconoclasm on Jan 9, 2008 14:13:01 GMT -6
The most I read was the Dark Elf Trilogy with Dritz I think his name was?Amusing it was nonetheless It'd be a good idea to partner up now that I look at it.I guess I'll be your partner,I must warn you this astral stuff is new to me.Used to working with alien and demons astral side,well they generally were the ones who pulled me forcefully from my body anyway.LOL! That said if you object to such a partnership I can understand...I am a bit eccentric . I'll see if I can come up with something for the temple.
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Post by jasmine on Jan 10, 2008 13:37:21 GMT -6
There you go! I accept your offer Iconoclasm. I will have to take a look at my calendar to see what will be a good evening to meet up so to speak. When I did this with Punkritualtheatre I was in the process of chatting with him on IM. I wanted to know if you want to do that. I will see if you are listed in mine and add you. Also if you need the pic to be bigger let me know.
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Post by iconoclasm on Jan 10, 2008 15:25:23 GMT -6
Excuse the bloodstained t shirt,those stains never do come out but here I am. That said Im not sure what to truly expect and Im receptive to strange astral things drifting around but if it works we should meet astral side.I 'd love to chat on IM sometime.Keep in touch
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Post by ratmage on Jan 14, 2008 19:27:30 GMT -6
Mind if I join this projection team . I have not astral projected in quite some time. I am the one with hair
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Post by punkritualtheatre on Jan 28, 2008 4:05:11 GMT -6
Wow, this is looking awesome. I took time off after a very harsh psychedelic journey that took me to tarterus. Then a drinking binge, then a fluffying up period in the David Icke current. I think Jasmine might confirm that the energy I came back with at first would have been too painful for helping to launch such a project. It's looking good. I'm almost glad I took my leave for a while, cos things look like they turned out well without me. If anyone wants to check me out for first astral contact protocols, my messenger adress is punk_ritual_theatre@hotmail.co.uk We can chat, see how we connect, and find common ground for progressing into the project. Now that we've got a Venger backed astral building contract for the group meeting place, should we talk about apropriate CoC ways of protecting it?
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Post by ratmage on Jan 28, 2008 21:13:33 GMT -6
yah sure .....why have such a project compromised
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Post by jasmine on Jan 29, 2008 16:38:40 GMT -6
In reference to Punkritualtheatres idea....I have a question. I usually use my relationship with the main deity I work with as a filter or guard when I am working astrally. How does one go up setting up warding on the astral? I would think personally to use a servitor or an entity that I work with. Would the Kort'thsalis sigil work for this? I am wondering what happened to my partner. Iconoclasm never got back to me on getting together to do the first meet up. I am still open to that and would like to. I am assuming that we both just got busy. I am looking forward to meeting you all. If Iconoclasm is bowing out of the experiment then I would be happy to move forward with ratmage. I am very interested in seeing his astral form On another note.....in the pic of ratmage he is standing next to another fellow who is bald. Did he ever live in New Orleans? He sure looks like someone I met there. The world seems so small sometimes it blows me away. I am thrilled that Punkritualtheatre is back and I am happy to hear he is doing better. I will make sure to check in on this thread few times in the next week to see if it is moving again. Ia Cthulhu!!!
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Post by jasmine on Jan 30, 2008 12:48:16 GMT -6
As far as the temple goes. I like the idea of the cavern. It definitely needs to be on the seashore. I really like the idea of standing stones on the cliffs above with the twisting symbols of the elder language carved or burned into the rocks. There is great beauty there and a desolate sense for me. Cthulhu has been gone from his brethren for so long....entombed beneath the waves....the sense of solitude pervades the entire area. I see emerald green waters lapping at the shore and up into the cavern beyond. One can only get to the cavern by diving beneath the waves and swimming thought the small tunnel that is the only indicator on the cliff face that there is a cavern beyond. Once you surface there is nothing but a moving green light....diffuse. It seems as if the entire cavern is glowing in shades of emerald green and chartreuse. There is a huge statue of Cthulhu at the far end of the cavern. This cave is enormous!! It is almost impossible to see all of it when one is floating on the water in the middle of it. Once you rise from the water and come up the steps to wards the altar at the far end that is when you realize the true size of the statue and that his wings become part of the cavern roof. That is as far as I have gotten on the visualization of the Astral Temple. I am not very good at drawing so I am really hoping someone will give a go at some soon. I could go out and start shaping things up in the astral....but then it would be my temple and not everyones.....so lets see some ideas!!!
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Post by jasmine on Feb 28, 2008 17:57:03 GMT -6
Where did everyone go? sniff sniff No really, are we gonna do this or what? Jaz.
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Post by I AM the Way on Feb 29, 2008 9:50:47 GMT -6
that's going to be one of the things featured on the new CoC blog. so i haven't forgotten about it. thanks for the reminder though.
VS
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Post by jasmine on Feb 29, 2008 12:20:16 GMT -6
Where is the blog going to be posted? I am still working out the technoweenie thing. Jaz.
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