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Post by jasmine on Oct 26, 2007 9:42:38 GMT -6
Yes...I want to put a copy of the sigil on my wall as well....but I have an 11 yr old who I have been training in the basics of magics for some time. He can meditate and raise energy and create a circle so far. I feel uncomfortable "exposing" him to such energies before he is ready. He would recognize it as a sigil and as he practices sigil magic (basics) he would I think be receptive to it. I dont want him on the kind of ride I have had this last month. I believe it would be overwhelming for the child mind. Perhaps I am lending it too much energies or power...but as a mother I have to be protective. It is hard to know how far to take my son magically. He is very adept for his age. I dont want to fry his brain or drive him insane. As far as your query. I am hoping for a positve effect. I would not be adverse to a negative one. It would be interesting to observe. Really.....I accept the fact that I still might not know what I am dealing with. I could be experiencing a negative effect. It does not feel as such at this moment, but things change.....they always do.
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Post by jasmine on Dec 7, 2007 17:27:58 GMT -6
Ok, I was completely wrong about worrying about my son. He is happily moving along in his own magical training and has had nothing but a positive experience with the Meta Sigil. As mentioned before I avoided showing it to him mainly out of fear. Well, one day I was sitting and looking at it and I realized my son was sitting quietly behind me gazing at it. He said it looked like it was pulsing like a neon light. In the next week he told me that he had resumed meditation because a substitute teacher had come into class and had them meditate to a rythmic drum for 15 minutes. hmmmm He said that Scorpion and Buck and Spider came to take him to Dolphin (I am speaking of shamanic travel in the Underworld for those who think I just went barmy) Dolphin took him under the ocean to see Cthulhu. Needless to say I was suprised. He said he had really liked where he lived because it was all beautiful and green. He said that Cthulhu had a message for him....that he would live long and do great magic. I am still working this out. Within two weeks he had begun to ask me to teach him again. I had pretty much stopped teaching him a couple of years ago because I did not want to force my world view on him. I had up until that point taught him a great many basics. We are doing stuff regularly again...divination....he's learning Futhark. The most amazing thing is watching him meditate as often as he does....this is an active kid, he simply is never still unless asleep. The other thing that happened is that he started asking me for HPL books out of the blue. I really had not been talking to him about my personal stuff with Cthulhu. So, yes it did have an effect on him....definitely not bad. He is on his own path more firmly than before. And so am I, I have had lots of dreams of Cthulhu...I have had a huge resurgence in my Satanic origins, I have had a huge resurgence in the magical areas of my life.....I have been tithing some energies back to the sigil personally as it has to keep pulsing its energies out into the universe. I do feel that a great many things are moving for me right now and I am personally feeling better than ever. Ok ok.....another long post. I just wanted to check back in and make sure I did not scare anyone away from working with it.
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Post by luxcthonis on Dec 8, 2007 1:22:06 GMT -6
So after I read this thread I decided to read the EI essay/Ritual, and I could definitely feel the pull, but only when I began reading the ritual to myself. Suddenly, it was as if I was flooded with a euphoric peace and tranquility which spread from my crown down my neck, shoulders and spine. I assume this was acknowledgement from the Sigil God, or at least I got that impression. A few questions before I delve further, recklessly and haphazard as a Pickman proper: Since I have no background in magic, would it be dangerous to..... wait a minute.... I'm a fucking Cultist! Cthulhu is my God.. Hail the A:O. Hail to myself as one of them; and hail to all of you, my fellow Cthonists. Lvx, -H.
Edit: oh yes, i forgot there for a moment.. if I copy it, say, in a book, or get it tattooed, or what not, should the colours always be incorporated? or is it just as powerful to mark in any fashion? I would think the latter, but....?
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Post by luxcthonis on Dec 8, 2007 14:03:04 GMT -6
I am going to put the EI website up on myspace as my own in hopes that the unsuspecting will be enshrouded thereby.
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Post by iconoclasm on Dec 8, 2007 14:09:10 GMT -6
Magic is a funny thing.It has to feel aesthetically pleasing ,and structured in a way you feel like your dealing with something fragile ( not like ho hum im bored so let me be theatrical)That is the only advice I can give you.If ur new to it ,your lucky,it always feels more special that way.
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Post by I AM the Way on Dec 8, 2007 15:32:35 GMT -6
fascinating stuff. looks like the Meta Sigil is influencing human evolution at an early stage, or perhaps that's just wishful thinking... we should try to have more children view it and record the effects.
by the way, anyone ever see the movie Colossus: The Forbin Project? it's an older movie where a super computer (actually, two of them) dominates the human race in order to keep man alive and moving forward. i recommend it, only wish it was available as widescreen on DVD and much longer because the movie's premise is suitable for a full trilogy or a multi-season tv series.
Venger As'Nas Satanis Cult of Cthulhu High Priest
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Post by Yahn'ikthorn on Dec 10, 2007 5:12:58 GMT -6
I consciously didn't read this thread for a couple of days and the words Meta Sigil kept kind of bothering me.
Now I know why.
If all the hairs on the back of my neck were not standing up amid the general feeling of wonder and power, I'd scream "WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!?"
But I'm not going to do that since I feel I will come to know sooner or later.
I don't know anything about tattoo magick, what kind of results might etching this symbol into your skin permanently have? (I don't have any as of yet, and I feel this would be an ideal first one...)
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Post by luxcthonis on Dec 11, 2007 2:21:11 GMT -6
Also: I loved your green mask of death incorporated with the Meta-Sigil; I wanted to tattoo it on my forhead when I saw that! hahaha! interesting that you should here mention tattoos.....
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Post by Yahn'ikthorn on Dec 11, 2007 2:50:43 GMT -6
Indeed, in a twisted, oozing way we are all connected. ;D
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Post by I AM the Way on Dec 11, 2007 12:39:00 GMT -6
this is a digital rendering that H'smack'li did recently. it has a Frank Lloyd Wright kind of feel to it. well done.
i encourage others to not only use Kort'thsalis, but to re-create it in your own evolution, magic, and aesthetic.
VS
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Post by jasmine on Dec 11, 2007 14:38:57 GMT -6
That digital rendering is awesome H'smack'li! Thanks for making it available to us. I really like it. It sure does have that frank Lloyd Wright feel to it.
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Post by Madguten on Dec 11, 2007 16:37:22 GMT -6
Great job on that sigil there H.
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Post by Yahn'ikthorn on Dec 13, 2007 16:43:25 GMT -6
I've got an idea. How a bout making food which has the meta-sigil somehow imprinted in it? Like a pizza or cake or something. EATING the symbol could be something.
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Post by luxcthonis on Dec 14, 2007 2:27:16 GMT -6
Thank you for the kind words everyone, and I'm glad you all like it! I also want to get it tattooed! that will be awesome. i would love to get it on my forehead (really!) but I'm not sure if I'm ready to stand out that much.
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Post by luxcthonis on Dec 21, 2007 3:04:17 GMT -6
As a direct result of the experiences I have had with Kort'thsalis and Its Sigil, I feel that It's purpose is to train me in a sort of magic which is hitherto unknown, except through employment of this particular Meta-Sigil. What I speak of can be perhaps fathomed in the sense of a magical tradition proper which exclusively utilizes the powers of Kort'thsalis, a God proper whose identity is no less than the merged consciousness of Satan and Cthulhu combined. In Kort'thsalis they are one. I speak to the Sigil, and it answers.... I pray to Kort'thsalis, and he hears. Satan smiles, and Cthulhu stirs.... What be your thoughts? -H.
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Post by I AM the Way on Dec 21, 2007 10:47:02 GMT -6
Ia Ia!
go forth with Kort'thsalis as your guide...
VS
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Post by luxcthonis on Dec 21, 2007 17:08:07 GMT -6
Indeed Venger... indeed. Those would have been my words also Takuan. In all likelyhood, Kort'thsalis IS guiding you to do that very thing you mention. At first I was skeptical, but then I realized through fanatical belief that I am a child of the Ancient Ones...by association, I Am the Ancient One. Therefor, i leave caution to the wind. Notice how most dabblers in HPL's stories end up insane and/or committing suicide or otherwise dying from pissing off the A:O. The true Cultists seem to only die for the meddling done by the absent-minded and ignorant folk who at the same time become the protagonists of the stories themselves. I could be wrong, it has been a while, and I need to brush up on my scripture
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Post by Yahn'ikthorn on Dec 21, 2007 17:24:22 GMT -6
Hmm.
If I happen to anger some god by combining their symbols with Kort'thsalis, does that not indicate that the particular god is in the end very much useless to me as he/she is afraid of the Kort'thsalis? According to my wildly guessed theory, even the gods want to evolve beyond their current state and become something I cannot grasp with my human imagination. And to achieve that they need something like the Meta-Sigil to collect enough power.
Could the Meta-Sigil be used as some kind of "false god detector" this way? If a god/energy pattern/entity does not react favorably to it, it is against evolution and a lackey of the despicable being that feeds on our suffering. I'm going to try assimilating as many symbols/sigils into the Kort'thsalis as I think will be sensible (i.e. only the strongest symbols of each god/pantheon/religion).
I have an intuitive feeling that Kali is very compatible with K't, I think Odhinn is too since he is also a god of death, in addition to being very wise. The process described above, if it works like I think it does, should in the end make all other symbols than the K't useless as all power can be found in the K't.
Venger, please point out any mistakes in my thinking if there are any. Is this not the correct approach?
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Post by luxcthonis on Dec 21, 2007 19:03:19 GMT -6
Takuan, you have all the zeal of a true Pickman!!! Plus, I've always wanted to know an intravenous drug user, haha!
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Post by luxcthonis on Dec 22, 2007 5:29:45 GMT -6
haha! even better a syringe fetish! and here I am with a syring phobia (stepping on them, sitting on them, dirty ones, yum) but back to the sigil: As I have stated previously, I mean to discern the ways of the Magic of Kort'thsalis; to this end I have devised a theory: The Meta-Sigil is perhaps a spiritual device, even machine proper. Whatever it is, it is technology plain and simple. When integrated into the environment, It immediately begins to work, and it is also important to note (perhaps at the risk of repeating myself) that the wellspring of energy from which it derives Its power is eternal. That well will not run dry. It will do whatever necessary to cause the momentum to accelerate in a Cultists life by which Awakening and Godhood may be achieved. This process is begun of Its own accord. Venger was right when he said "just hang on." IT will also absorb the negative energy of the Cultist himself, and of any outside influences oppressive or otherwise (as well as non-active Cultists), and convert it into positive energy for the Cultist and the Cult whole. The Meta-Sigil also is a direct gateway from the A:O consciousness to our own and vice versa; it is a door for them to operate through in our dimension. I'm going to sleep to see them... ~VLL~
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Post by Yahn'ikthorn on Dec 22, 2007 5:36:40 GMT -6
The Meta-Sigil reminds me of the Hindu concept of Brahma in a certain regard... in the poem in the fiction board that stinks of some sort of autowriting, it is mentioned that Brahma has "access to the great storehouses and the Source".
The idea of there being "great storehouses" outside our universe, out of which worlds are created, is very intriguing.
Perhaps the Meta-Sigil will allow us to create worlds and dimensions of our own in the future... isn't that what Godhood is about...
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Post by I AM the Way on Dec 22, 2007 13:20:30 GMT -6
i believe you are right. true Cultists are never harmed by the entities they summon; and if a Cultist is destroyed by an angry mob, then their essence will live on. anyone seen the Roger Corman picture The Haunted Palace with Vincent Price? Lovecraftian classic of cinema!
haha, yes... a 'false god detector'. i can imagine a Cultist holding K't to a god's face like a priest would hold a glowing crucifix to a vampire's face in a Hammer film. if it burns them, then they must be slain.
good nickname, by the way: K't
Venger As'Nas Satanis Cult of Cthulhu High Priest
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Post by luxcthonis on Dec 22, 2007 17:06:14 GMT -6
What do you think the Kort'thsalean magic would be called? I suppose it falls under Emerald Magic, but it is a division unto itself I am sure. What do you evil motherfuckers think? *smirks* ~VLL~
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Post by Yahn'ikthorn on Dec 22, 2007 17:50:58 GMT -6
Hahah, I think I assimilated a good amount of energy into K't tonight...
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Post by jasmine on Dec 22, 2007 19:57:32 GMT -6
So, how about this one? I am curious to see what the effect of the Kort'thsalis would have on someone that is attempting a magical attack upon a cult member. I believe that interposing the sigil astrally between one and ones attacker would be most effective in "eating" the energies that are being directed at oneself. Also, it might actually serve as a distraction to the attacker allowing the attackee a chance at some kind of return attack. What say you?
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Post by luxcthonis on Dec 22, 2007 22:12:01 GMT -6
I agree! I think that this is an area which needs to be explored definitely. Also, I agree that it will most likely absorb any averse energy, and perhaps even make it backfire against the attacker. With K'T it seems that whatever you desire to be so is certainly so, meaning it can pretty much do anything. It is the ultimate expression of the Cult at this time, and quite possibly one of the strongest Sigils ever made (at least I COULD say this if I had any experience on the matter). Someone else tell me if K'T is stronger. All things work for K'T. That which opposes is absorbed. ~VLL~
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Post by I AM the Way on Dec 22, 2007 22:41:20 GMT -6
yes and yes.
VS
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Post by luxcthonis on Dec 22, 2007 23:15:27 GMT -6
That is a reason, also, why I chose to put it as the central figure of my chamber, so that any negative energy which may come against me will automatically be absorbed by it. Where better to put it than where you are at most of the time? Around your neck, or on your body would be a good one. Also, I should note that there is noticable energy which seems to be associated with my chamber now. I am not at all averse to it, but my wife, who is not used to those sorts of things, will only enter the room under certain circumstances. She is afraid of it. I told her it protects her as well, which it does because that is what I want it to do. Knowing that my every action is performed with the purpose of the A:O in mind, I perceive that Kort'Thsalis grants the desire of the heart. Anything, so long as the Cultist advances towards Godhood. I should also note that my son of 18 months is profoundly interested in it, and it seems to make him unusually happy. Hail the Ancient Ones! ~VLL~
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Post by Yahn'ikthorn on Dec 23, 2007 7:21:42 GMT -6
Strange how children are attracted to the Kort'thsalis... very cute, actually ;D
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Post by luxcthonis on Dec 26, 2007 2:25:59 GMT -6
Korth'salas has revealed Itself to me as the Formless Black Essence. Pure synthesis of Cthonis and Sethena. Iao!
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